The state of Britain. overpopulation and mismanaged records

Where are your parents from john ?

 

I think it's worth a try, maybe having a trial phase of the system to see how it goes. But because I don't know the processes of immigration I'm not really in a position to voice my opinion on the subject. But I do agree that this government is not doing Britain any good.

 

If you want a vision of today's Britain and its youth culture, watch A Clockwork Orange. It may have been set in the 70's, but really, has society really moved forwards? No...yeh, if yeh, maybe in the wrong direction. I reckon that Britain is on a verge of dependency with America, Lala Euroland, because Britain cannot support itself. We need other people to come and run our trains, comb our bald heads, clean the toilets, yet for their hardwork, we pay them peanuts, we exploit them. The government in its infinite wisdom, reckons that it is illegal to undercut foreign workers pay. Well it still happens, yet no enforcement. However, they are hot on the heels of all those Brits who are doing benefit fraud. I mean come on, Britain has lost its way.


But thats my personal opinion.

 

My father was Turkish, My mother was Welsh

 

the population count is a mess because many immigrants are using multiple identities in different areas...& getting away with it.
many are scamming atm machines & if they are caught they give a false identity for that area & simply disappear without trace.
all immigrant criminals should instanly be deported !

 

The state of Britain is such dire, ever since we joined the EU has emerged on Teletext letters. It costs Britain 100,000 pounds an hour to be apart of the EU. We have to provide schools, homes and other things for half of Europe, yet our own economy is being stripped to its core due to the influx of mass proportions, of Eu migrants. Though this is ideal as a seperate debate, I cannot help thinking that somehow Britain, despite helping Europe in two world wars, is getting a bad deal.

Apparently Sir Winston Churchill in his 1946 speech in Vietnam, called for a "United States of Europe".

Can you imagine this? USE!

To be honest, I feel as though Britain is being used. And as this isn't normal in the scheme of what should be. We should add AB. Aristocratic Brussel's United States of Europe. Who calls the shots? Brussels, Who says whether we should have border controls? Brussels. Named after a vegatable that nobody likes. Coincidence, I think not.

 

Sprouts are awesome, anyone who thinks otherwise is a filthy commie.

 

What plans do you have then regarding your own relocation then, when are you going back home ?

 

The state of Britain is due to the continued failings of this Labour government. Even last night, we saw illegal immigrants trying to get to Britain. Yet when they get to Britain, they often stay or are paid 4000 pounds to leave. I recently found this out from a good source. Even now,under labour, illegal workers are being given NINOs. No wonder there is such hostility toward immigrants. Because there are lots of immigrants working,but the rest of us are priced out and sitting at home. THough this is not what I want for my life. But like other British citizens like me, we are being dragged through hyped up Programme development centres and are treated worse than a prisoner when it comes to going to the jobcentre.

All in all, I stick by my guns. Enoch Powell was right. I am just amazed that many people just seem to believe that this Country is infinite, rather than a finite peace of land. This isn't being a neo nazi, so before the Name callers, branders and other empty headed insults head my way. Lets just say that I welcome ethnicity in Britain.At the same time we all have to be realistic and get the balance right. Under this government, the doors are open to all. Even potential terrorists. How can we feel safe and secure under labour? I am aware labour are good at other things, but when it comes to the needs of its own people, it is quickly dashed away and surrendered to the EU.

I once read in a paper when George Bush was re elected. It said, "How can 20 million people be so stupid". Perhaps when everyone keeps voting labour, then swoon when labour get it wrong again and again and again. They then respond with, "Oh"!

Britain's crime rate upon London streets. Youth crime is sky rocketing, because kids can get away with it. I saw in the news that some youths were posing on police vehicles with guns, sub machine guns and samurai swords.Yet the police didn't have enough evidence to prosecute. Had these individuals been adults. Trust thy words, it would have been a completely different story.

Britain has lost its way. Now we are in runnings with Russia. I predict Cold war 2.
Perhaps if we had another government, things might change for the better. Meaning prosperity for all, even immigrants. And perhaps the first step is to get out of the EU. It costs us 100,000 pounds an hour to be in. WE have an mass influx of EU migrants. Yet we are expected to create millions of houses, schools and entertainment arenas for half of fucking Europe. Yet looking back,lack of houses, good schools in Britain. THe housing market is falling. People aren't secure and confident in it no more. I predict another recession. When house market crashes, we will return to an era where Maggie Thatcher invaded Falklands, and there was mass high unemployment. Britain isn't going forwards, it is going backwards. In another twenty years, Britain will become an economic ruin. Even Iraq would be better off than us. WHilst labour continue to destroy this country. Forgive me thy brothers for voicing my opinions loudly. IN the end, us the citizens have to make that choice of who we want to run our country. A United States of Europe is precisely what Brussels wants. Do we want to be another America?

 

I don't think JOhn's comments are racist or that he himself is a racist, in fact i believe this debate needs to happen publicly. I find that the language we use is generally not useful to describe our opinions or feelings; it is very difficult to have this conversation without people pointing the finger and shouting racist (perhaps it's just me that can't express myself but i don't think that's true).

I came to this website to rediscover the openmindedness and general hippyness i had until a few years ago. I'm surprised that this debate is found here because i imagined that the (assumed) hippy standpoint (politically correct) wouldn't tolerate this debate. I never questioned my whiteness or my national identity because it had never been an issue before i moved to London where i found racism against me an everyday experience. I label myself white and English because those are the labels that the people of London gave me, and i'm happy to wear them. Travelling on the bus from Tottenham to Leyton, changing at Walthamstow was life changing. Whenever i got on the bus, people sucked their teeth (tutted) at me because i was white. I had people say to me that: The English are all racist, drunk and violent. I put up with this racist treatment for three years before leaving London. I've lost my innocence where it comes to immigration and the race debate. It often seems to me that racism in this country is not tolerated unless it's against English people. Merely describing yourself as English is often interpreted as racist, even when that label was imposed by other people. I wish i still had the innocence of thought that we are all one race, the human race, but i find that that attitude doesn't take into account culture, and cultural differences. When i tell people that i experienced racism for being white and English, people assume that i am a racist, yet if a black man says he has experienced racism, he will get sympathy and probably the support of the legal system.

I do not use abusive terms to describe people of different colour skin than me, i do not or will not vote BNP, yet i can't help feeling that we are being pushed from many different directions, and have little support or protection from authorities. Racism doesn't come easily to me, and i do find it difficult to talk about these issues because we as a society have been taught to be tolerant to other people.

It has made me terribly unhappy and at times easy to anger, i have made an appointment to visit a cognitive therapist so that i can hopefully retrain my habitual thought processes (positive brain change). Whether i'm succsessful or not in changing my thought processes so that i can be happier and less stressed, this will not change the fact that there is noone in the political arena speaking up for English people. Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland all have their own assemblies or parliament to protect their interests but Westminster still wants to talk about British issues ignoring the (often poorly expressed) concerns of English people. Noone is protecting English interests. The BNP are trying to address this, but anyone of slight intelligence or conscience will simply see them as backward. There is a growing feeling of intolerance in this society and even the most intelligent person is prey to bouts of stupidity, the subtleties of this debate and all the issues surrounding it make it almost impossible to address without a backlash of finger pointing and name calling.

I personally don't know what to do except work on myself to try to change my world (perception), but racism will still be rife in this country. Equally intolerable as racist attitudes towards immigrants, is the false moral high-ground of the politically correct.

 

Now look i wanted to add to the debate not kill it, so here is my proposal: Forget getting out of Europe, we should get out of the UK, England should be independent of British politics, self rule, let Westminster flail around like a dying fly as as it continues to ignore the desires , concerns and will of English people. English people have always been bullied by the London- based government. I don't recognise their authority anyway, they have gone too far and you must be crazier than I am if you think they will ever do anything worthwhile for us.

 

Well some of what you've said is sensible. I don't think you have to be black or Asian to have experienced racism. Racism works in every direction, though I would say historically prejudices of any kind have tended to work most strongly against minorities, those outside the mainstream and those with the least social, political and cultural power/capital. I'm half Pakistani and half English and I've experienced racism from both Pakistanis and the English. It's the classic in-group/out-group, us and them narrow minded mentality that everyone really should aspire to rise above. That you've been a victim of racism does not mean you should lower yourself to that level, though I think you already know that.

As for breaking up the UK, I couldn't disagree more. I'm very much in favour of the unity of the United Kingdom and can't see much benefit to any of its constituent countries were they to go solo....