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Discussion in 'Dreadlocks' started by dreadlocks, Nov 5, 2007.

  1. sangharyan

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    I was always under the impression that a drug is a substance that causes addiction to the mind and/or body. Therefore marijuana can't possibly be a considered a drug. How can pot be considered medicinal to some and prison time for others? I really don't like this thread, I mean who puts a poll that asks whether or not you do drugs. Silly?
     
  2. JahJohn

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    there are many more people who smoke cannabis*, shoot up, do crack, do meth, pills or whatnot that DON'T have dreads.
    Your dad needs to think.

    * I'm saying cannabis is a drug for the purpose of the original poster's question. I'm sick of debating the subject, so I leave it to others. I'm sure there's nothing I can say that hasn't been said already anyway.
     
  3. DreadDollie

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    I completely agree with the fact that this kind of poll is absolutely ludacris.
     
  4. s0ma

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    i voted yes. and look, exactly half do and half don't. see?
     
  5. Greengirl

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    i dont do drugs i do weed.
     
  6. HavePatience

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    This poll would be more helpful, I think, if it broke down quote-unquote "drugs" into different substances and categories.
     
  7. DrewS

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    i dont wear shoes i wear sandals.
     
  8. sangharyan

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    Wrong thread Drew
     
  9. NZ_Sandman

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    I've never done drugs before (I actually haven't even had a cigarette before) yet as soon as I got dreads, people were coming up to me asking for weed and asking what drugs I use etc. It just comes with the stereotype.
     
  10. Greengirl

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    i dont shit i just fart
     
  11. DrewS

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    interesting....
     
  12. welostone

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    all my friends told me that people are going to approach me about buying pot. i'm a little worried just in case they whip out some innuendo that i'm not familiar with and i look like a huge square since i don't smoke lol. i think i'll have fun going along with it if that happens though. figure it's an opportunity to mess with someone

    has anything like that happened to anyone? :)
     
  13. welostone

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    i've known plenty of people who can't go a day without smoking pot, so if your definition of a drug is something that causes addiction then in my opinion it certainly is one. plenty of things are medicinal to some and lethal to others (i don't really agree with prison time either though, since there are plenty of harmless drug users). in fact i think that most recreational drugs started out as medicinal.

    but in all fairness i think this is kind of an interesting poll. maybe the motive was kind of silly (honestly if my dad was that ignorant i might actually achieve caring less than i do now about what he has to think), but it serves as hard evidence against a stereotype that a lot of people here would reject :-/
     
  14. sangharyan

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    Not my opinion, fact! They might want to smoke pot, but that doesn't mean their addicted. I have smoked pot since I was 13 and of course there are times I don't have any I wish I did, but certainly don't have any withdrawl symptoms. No studies have shown marijuana to be addicting. And there have been many many studies if you do a bit of research. Though I never was very argumentative, I guess i'll leave it at that. Cheers
     
  15. erizoe

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    The last show i went to was redicilous, so many kids weer trying to buy stuff from me. And you're right, it is awkward when you don't get an inuendo.

    funny though =)
     
  16. Orange Sunrise

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    'Drug' sould NOT be defined by addiction. The concept of addiction is relitive to the user. For example = some people get hurt and are perscribed oxycoton (VERY 'Addivctive") but they use it to manage pain and after a month there perscription runs out and they never even think about using it. Then again, the oppsosit can happen. Someone could potentially smoke pot (non 'addivicte', no withdrawl), fall in love with the feeling and smoke with no end in sight.

    People need to stop making up there own opinions for the word drug... its rediculous. i think the main reason it because the term is negitive and people smoking pot don't want to be associated with it. wake up guys, your getting faded... its that simple.
     
  17. ApolloPLUR

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    Those who mind don't matter
    Those who matter don't mind
     
  18. soaringeagle

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    let me settle this drug no drug aergument right here and now

    ganja is an herb..a medicinal herb
    marinol is a drug
    mushrooms are an herb, lsd is a drug

    many many medicinal herbs are chemicaly perverted to make drugs, most drugs are baesed on herbal sources but are chemicaly changed in the processs the new drugs tend to have long lists of side effects
    herbs are pure and generaly dont have the dangerouse side effects of the chemicaly altered drugs
    al;ll drugs are man made manipulations of cjhemical cxompounds
    all herbs are plants
    some herbs contain compounds that can be altered to create drugs
    no herb is a drug\although many many (including many classified as food) atr medicinal

    sugarcane is an herb refined sugar a drug

    hops is an herb beer made from hops a drug

    to qualify as a drug it must have gone through a man made manipulation of the chemicals

    previosly someomne said anything that alters the way you feel is a drug..well
    then lets list things that alter the way you feelk and alter brain chemistry and thought patters

    love fear anger sadness virtualy every possibly type of food oxygen (especialy too much or too little) sex sunlight darkness heat cold isolation social interaction virtualy every single thing you come in contact with triggers chemical changes in your body and mind changes thought patters and behaviors and influences how you feel

    drugs can only be classified as man made substances designed to create specific reactions in the body or mind

    no drug is naturaly occurring in nature althpough some of the compounds can occur naturaly within herbs or within living organisms (like adrenilin thorzine melatonin and others)


    now that thats settled

    i did do alotta drugs when i was youngf quiet everything but herb many many years ago, pot was an anti drug for me it helped me to realize how negative all those drugs were and stay clear oif everything i wont even take pain killers not even tylenol or asperin even though i'm nearly always in pain often extreme
    the only drugs i do touch are refined sugar cause its so hard to avoid
    as for herbs i smoke pot i treat many ailments herbaly or homeopathicly
    the pot i smoke is rare at best some4times weekly sometimes only a couple times a year every now and then heavily for a weejk otr 3 then not again for months i never buy it only smoke when someone hands me some
    but it is also the best herb for me
    from a spinal chord injury i have bad spasms, the meds they put me on made me halucinate like crazy both visual anmd auditory to the point of believing thje things i saw were real
    and still had bad spasms
    pot thpough, especialuy in tincture foem made them go away completely and i was able to get off all the nasty dangerouse meds (a freind tried to suicide with my meds, took less then i took a day and it stopped her heart)

    drugs are dangerouse by definition theres semi safe dosages but no drug is truly safe..but herbs can be, pot beinmg safe at virtualy any dosage
    not saying all herbs are 100% safe..ofcourse not some herbs are deadly even in tiny amounts (ofcourse the same herbs prepared homeopathicly can be very benificial) im just saying that every singly drug (man made chemical ) has its dangers

    i have dreads, i'm very much anti drug, but very much pro pot buth rectreationaly medicinaly and its industrial uses..and whoever said it can save the world was right..pot based fuel is the only solution there is because it has the highest biomass yeild of any other soiurse and grows so quickly
    legalization and utilization would almost instantly fix the economy and destroy the energy ctrisis (and much mucjh more)

    when u said drugs arent cool u were right..but an herb that can save the world..thats pretty da,mn cool just imagine your driving along in a car made from hemp (ford already made 1 you could drive through a brick wall without denting it, itt would last forever) that ran on hemp fuel while your smokin a fat joint (what do stoned drivers dop? slow down burning even less hempo fuel..and drive more carefuly causing less accidents) then ya stop at a fast food place and insteazd of slaughtered cows (which 1 pound of hamburgher takes literaly thouysands of pounds of food to grow till its slaughtered) they setve hemp seed bnurgers which are higher in protein and grow 400 times faster in 1 miullionth the space... yup world hunger goes out the window tpoo just legalizing 1 harmess helpful amazing lil herb
     
  19. Toejam

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    I don't really agree with soaringeagle's definition of a "drug". Even though I respect his opinion, as others have said, a drug is any substance which alters the way the body functions - obviously the mind is a part of the body, and a very important one at that.

    I take all kinds of drugs. I don't take them to be "cool", or to be seen a certain way, or to "stick it to the man" [government]. I take them because I believe that some drugs (not all) can have extremely beneficial effects on the psyche and my mental wellbeing in general.

    BUT - like I said, I only believe that certain drugs are worth my time. It all comes down to the ratio of effort = time = reward, both long term and short term. I would love to try mescaline, but I believe the effort involved far outweighs the rewards of having ingested that particular drug. Therefore I have not tried it. But I don't say that it is bad, or is not classifiable as a drug, nor do I prevent others from trying it if they so wish.

    PART OF THE FREEDOM OF LIBERTY AND SPEECH IS THE ABILITY TO PUT ANYTHING YOU LIKE INTO YOUR BODY. You are the only person responsible for your body, and wellbeing. The government does not own your body. Nor does your family, nor does your friends.

    I don't go around broadcasting the fact that I am a psychonaut (a psychonaut is a term used to desribe someone who ingests substances for spiritual or philosophical reasons, not purely recreational). However obviously the boundaries can get easily blurred.

    I do smoke pot on the odd occasion, however I am not a daily user. This is because I believe the act of smoking is more harmful to my lungs than another substance which can be ingested via a different route (thus causing less physical harm), for example LSD.

    For this reason, I primarily use psychedelic drugs. Ironically, I find them easier to obtain than pot. I don't use them daily as they are far too intense, so instead I use them on a weekly basis, once I have finished my working week and can relax my mind and body. I don't think that drugs have "changed" who I am, in fact if anything, they have given my life more direction and meaning. Most people cannot tell that I engage in these kinds of activities, yet those who I trust and respect will not mind either way. Therefore, I am content with them knowing about how I choose to spend my time.

    Some people have had bad experiences with drugs, and I can understand why. I don't judge them for this, nor do I think they are "boring" or cynical because they believe that drugs are bad. Like others have said, it is all subjective.

    If you choose to do something in the privacy of your own home, then it is your perfect right to do so, as long as no one is being harmed or hurt in the process. Yes, I have become somewhat anti-social since using drugs. However, I have always been this way because that is simply who I am. Drugs have helped me to understand this better.

    The other thing to remember, is that we all have our "vices". Whether it be orange tic tacs, a glass of champagne every night, or even excessive fitness and self-absorbment. Too much of anything can become a bad thing, eventually.

    One thing I have never understood is how some people who have never drank anything, taken drugs, or smoked in their whole lives can die at the age of 53, and yet a chainsmoker will continue to live on well into their 80s.

    I believe that the art of being happy contributes a LOT more to physical health than people understand. Being happy is ultimately more beneficial and rewarding than choosing to obsess over one's actions, and driving oneself further and further into metal despair.

    That's just my two cents really.
     
  20. shine_crazydiamond

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    i like what knotty rye said about every kind of person may or may not do drugs. I do think that society has things drilled into our heads of what is right and wqrong and dreadlocks is probably in the latter catagory. i know many people with dreads and some of them do drugs and some do not. I think that if you wnat them, you should go for it, trying to please everybodyy pleases no body
     

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