New Morning Glory Extraction?

I tryed morning glory seeds before (7.5 grams ground up and with cold water), to my disappointment, it gave me nasty burps and wasnt visual at all. I'm thinking of increasing the dose and doing the extraction w/ Naptha. I dont have ethanol, so what if you separate the naptha with lemon juice? Would this work? Also, what if you wait for the naptha to evaporate? Will i get the pure Lsa from this?Anyone try this before and does anyone have ways to extract lsa without ethanol or anything hard to get?

 

idk it would work because i dont know anything about napatha or ethanol or lemon juice or any of that....but if it did work after evaporating the liquid that contains the lsa in the final step (which i thought was acetone?) your left with a sticky dark yellow tar stuck to the glass dish u evaporated on that u need to scrape up with a razor blade...i think its relativley pure 90%ish but im seriousley talking out of my ass im not positive on ANY of this....erowid is your friend though... www.erowid.org

 

youre never going to get visuals, because LSA doesnt really have them.

 

According to a website http://nepenthes.lycaeum.org/Extraction/extract2.html
you use naptha(non polar) and mix w/ ground up seeds, you GET RID of the naptha once you filter it through coffee filter, the resulting seed mush contains LSA and seed crap, from there they use ethanol to filter again through the seed mush, and this time you save liquid which contains LSA and throw away seed mush. My question is: is there another , readily available polar solution to get LSA instead of ethanol?

 

once you have lsa and mush, you could probably do a standard water extraction, and expect fewer than usual nasties right?

 

water is polar.

 

thats what i was wondering..water is polar, but has anyone tried it this way? Once you filter LSA w/ water, can you evaporate result to get powder LSA? Im thinking of trying this experiment.

 

Maybe you could try a different type of alcohol instead of the ethanol for extraction. Maybe use 99% rubbing alcohol? I'm not sure if it works yet, but I'm doing that right this moment actually. I'll tell you how it goes.

 

Thanks colimon , i dont have 99% alcohol but i do have 70% iso rubbing alcohol. If you let it evaporate, youre not ingesting any so their shouldnt be a problem.

 

OK, so I did my first water extraction. A bit of a comedy of errors, actually. I bought all the stuff and got up this morning at 9 to do the extraction, figuring I'd let it steep an hour or two in the fridge. To my great anoyance the piece 'o' crap coffee grinder I bought at Target didn't work. I tried smashing them with a hammer, but they're tough little suckers! I resorted to my pepper mill. This took some time, and was a bit of a "GRIND" (get it? sorry!) but it did the job. Finally around 10:30 I dumped the grinds in about 1 pint of distilled water and the juice of one lemon (I read that might help - at least the taste). After going to the gym I finally did the filtration but the paper coffee filters just plugged right up. Not wanting to wait any longer I resorted to using one of my shorts (clean, thank you very much!) as a filter!.

I initially bought pearly gates by mistake, and then heavenly blues. I're read heavenly blues are stronger. Since I knew the extraction wasn't going to be optimal, I used the pearly gates.

I bought the seeds from shamansgarden.com. The order arrived very quickly and they seem very nice.

I drank the extract of approx. 200 pearly gates seeds, ground thru a pepper mill (probably too coarse), and soaked in 500 ml distilled water for about 2-1/2 - 3 hours in the fridge. I drank it at 1:30 PM. At first I thought I was just buzzing on the endorphins from the workout, but I definitely got an effect. Not a trip, but a definite buzz. It is now 6 PM and I seem to be coming down. Not real psychedelic effects, just a general wierd buzz. My pupils are somewhat dilated. A bit of ringing in the ear. No nausea at all at any time.

I definitely expected more from 200 seeds, so I assume that something was not right with the procedure. Obviously I need a better grinding device than my pepper mill. Was is the optimal soaking time for the water extraction, considering I don't seem to get nausea? I do want to avoid the imfamous "strichnine effect, which sounds nasty. Any feedback and tips are appreciated.

 

dont take the time to evaporate the water, you'll be thoroughly dissapointed with the end product if you do that. just drink the water.