Long time reader, first time poster. Question...

Hi all,

Been browsing Hipforums for a long time, at least a year or more by now. I visit here so often that I thought I'd finally register myself and contribute to the antics.

You all seem to be interesting people; I always have a laugh or two when newbies post threads asking for sources or other ridiculous requests - let me just say I won't be doing any of that!

Anyway, back to the topic:
I've used a number of vendors to obtain various different chemicals over time. Needless to say, some are better than others. My last order was 500mg of 4-aco-dmt, when it was available from a particular vendor some months ago. When I received it, it appeared to include a "bonus" batch of some other chemical which had a completely different mechanism to the 4-aco. (I'm presuming it was a phenethylamine, most likely a 2c-x) It was also a LOT stronger. The extra batch was 100mgs.

Just wondering, has anybody else known of vendors including free chemicals with their order? Why would they do this? It seems slightly dangerous if they don't differentiate the bonus item from the ordered chemical itself. Wouldn't overdoses be possible? I mean sure, it generates rapport between the vendor and the purchaser, and possibly an incentive to further business, but why include something that wasn't requested?

Anyone else been a part of the practise? What are your thoughts about it?

-Toe

 

I suppose their excuse is that you are supposed to be doing research, not taking the drugs? I'm just guessing...

 

There was no label on the package? Thats pretty weird, they should atleast label the bonus stuff they hand out.

 

It should've been labaled and vendors usually do this.

Failing that you can email them up beforehand and find out before consuming.

 

damn, be careful man, as stated by others this can be common, but usually it is pre-discussed or labeled...

by the way dont be a stranger, all posts add to someone else learning...

 

Yeah, I remember almost nothing from the entire night; pretty scary experience.

I've used 4-aco dozens of times, so I assumed that the amount I used would equal a similar trip, in terms of intensity and what to expect - boy was I wrong.

It had a distinct "phenethylaminey" taste, very potent...reminded me of 2c-e. In fact the only reason I'm doubting it was 2c-e was because it was so damn evil. I mean sure, 2c-e does have a dark side to it, but not this dark!

I remember seeing my reflection in the mirror with scraps of flesh seemingly being torn from my face; nothing was where it was supposed to be, including the number of fingers on my hands. I couldn't find my way out of the bathroom, there was complete ego loss and I wasn't sure how to use this strange contraption called the human body. I couldn't see my hands in front of me because the OEVs were so intense. Everything had a very saturated hue to it....the experience consisted of the euphoric part (when the colours were at their brightest), before changing into a sickly yellow-ish green hue when the paranoia set in. The unpleasant tingling of the forearms was very prominent too; normally this doesn't affect me with tryptamines. The walls started attacking me.....

I actually started yelling when my flatmate came home later that night, because he slammed the door and I felt like I was in some kind of immediate, terrifying danger. He finally managed to calm me down and a DVD of The Simpsons somehow saved the night.

Most of the 100mgs had been used already (by my flatmate and a few mates of his about 3 months ago), so thankfully there is none left.

I think I'll email the vendor and ask (with tact and professionalism of course), what the extra compound was. Perhaps it was a 2CT compound, as I could easily understand why hospitalisations could occur on those.

The lesson in this is: ALWAYS TEST UNKNOWN BATCHES WITH A SMALL QUANTITY FIRST!

I know I will......

 

I'm pretty sure I've figured out what vendor you're talking about. Given the chemical you ordred from him, I can also figure out a time frame of when you ordered. I believe at that time, this vendor also carried a notoriously nastly chemical called 5-MeO-DET. My theory is, it didn't sell very much, and he decided to include free samples in people's orders. Look it up, supposed to be very dark in nature, more so than 2C-E, as you described.

 

Thanks for the info. Yeah, needless to say, the vendor is still around but is now operating under a new name. Might send an email, cheers!

 

He's still legit. As always though, he does take a while. Expect to wait up to a month, maybe even more to receive. His prices are decent, product is supposed to be high quality.

 

Haha. Yep - Schwag you definitely guessed the right vendor. Have ordered some compounds from him again recently - he is really slow and sometimes lacking in communication, but his friendliness makes up for that I think. This is about the third time he has reopened after supposedly "closing down forever". He does keep in contact with his regulars whenever he changes names though, which is handy.

Did you receive the same freebie by any chance?? Can I ask how you came across this info? I read about 5-meo-det, supposedly the recommended dose is max 10mgs. I would've taken probably twice that, which would explain the horrific effects....

 

No, I never received 5-MeO-DET from him. I have received 2C-T-21, which I have yet to try. I've been told his quality is good. Took me a week and a half to receive.