looking for a way out..

:hysterica Not a hippy but, I am beginning to think that I've got it all wrong. My boyfriend and I just had a little boy eight months ago and it was like getting a pair of reality goggles. Our society is poisonous and we don't want to expose our son to it anymore. My boyfriend is a musician and a hard worker and I am a nursing mother. Does anyone know of a good community outside of the norm?

 

THere are several i know. DO you want to farm in colorado? Where do you live. there are several in Missourri

#patch

 

We live in Tennessee. Do you know what it would be like to live on a farm like that? I really want to have some prior knowledge before I do this and I am very serious.

 

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I'm not sure i understand the question. Do you mean 'do i know how it would make me feel?' Or did you mean 'patch, do you farm?'

I live on an organic farm, in a valley with a mountain within stones throw on three sides, and a river runs through it.

There are several good farms in tennessee. Look on the net, try "intentional commnity". East wind is in MO. If you would like to hear more about my farm, in colorado, PM me. You could visit for a week this summer.

I know that your baby makes you want to have all the solutions now, but think twice before collapsing your life on a whim, without even knowing where you are going.

Goood luck though, whatever you dedide. #

 

I agree with rasta patch

“think twice before collapsing your life on a whim, without even knowing where you are going.”

A lot of people buy a one-way ticket to a commune and decide they hate it 3 weeks later and have nothing to go back to.

 

What other choices do we have though? My son wakes up and watches T.V. for an hour at a time several times a day. I'm afraid it's frying his brain or subliminally messing with his psyche. That's just the least of it though. I'm terrified that were going to run out of food. Not my family but the entire united states or even most of the world. I feel like something terrible is going to happen and I'm not sure if moving outside of the " typical society " can help. I'm sure that there isn't any magic answers that anyone could just thow out there but I'm hoping that someone out there might sense the eminent energy surrounding this and be able to pass some wisdom along...

 

^Get rid of the T.V…

A lot of people think communes are some magic place where life is magically better. There are not they are still life on planet earth... most of the ones I have been to still have T.V. and still have just as many or more community problems as the evil outside world.

To be honest most communes suck for children because they hardly have any kids so the few kids there have no one to play with and most of the rednecks in the surrounding communities don’t let their children play with the strange kids from the “cult”.

I live in society and my kids don’t watch T.V. we play out side and read books and learn about things that make life fun and peaceful, public libraries, recreation centers, parks, hiking trails.

It is a challenge there is no escape.. Escape is an illusion.

 

yeah WTF? your child watches tv because you allow the child to watch tv.NO other reason,remember your the childs parent not there buddy.

that is not a reason to just pick up and leave. if ya dont want your kid watching tv,get rid of it,if ya cant get rid of it,simply dont allow him to watch it. its not a babysitter,its a idiot box... really is a simple solution..

as far as food,you can raise enough food to feed a family of 4 on less than a quarter acre once you become knowledgeable in gardening..
even if you live in a apartment you would be amazed at what you can grow in pots just on your porch..

i dunno,i think for a lot of people the whole communal living thing is a lot better in there head than in reality. so much more to becoming a member of most communes than just moving in.. besides that,it truly takes like minded people to live and work together 24/7.

much like a marriage it often takes a lot of energy just to keep the relationships healthy..

 

I can imagine how you feel, I would like to escape the modern world...yet look at me on the computer! But I understand wanting to unplug...I dunno if picking up and moving is the right answer for you and your fam. maybe if it's possible visit with some communes and talk with them before making a jump. I wish you the best.

 

I don't want my kid to get picked on cause he's not allowed to watch t.v. I don't want him to be the "weird " kid. You're right though, I should throw the t.v. away. I think it's partially what's making me so anxious all the time.... Thanks to all who cared to hit me back.

 

well if you raise your kid worrying about what the children of babylon think about him then he will become one of them plain and simple..

and im sorry to say you cant run from babylon,it creeps in everywhere and children being what they are will be drawn to its bells and whistles regardless of where you are.
no one said being a parent was easy. good fortune.

 

do you have enough solvency to fly to colorado for a vacation? I think there are some intentional communities in virginia?

Go to the google search and type in 'federation of intentional communities' , and try 'twin oaks'.

 

I'll check it out, thank-you.

 

ok I get it. :behead: I don't think I could ever really express just how in depth I have thought about these things I'm talking about. I haven't even scratched the surface.
People have it alot worse then I do. I should stop crying about it. I should ban television. I should let my child play on the side of the road in front of our apartment. I should take him for a walk through the ghetto that outskirts our apartments and find fun healthy naturel activities to engage in with the crack dealers and prostitutes.. Oh wait a minute that probably isn't a very good idea... Come to think of it Maybe we should just stay holed up in this dim apartment and play connect the dot or something. I bet he'd love that!!!! Maybe I'll figure it out sooner then later. I sure hope so. Oh yeah.. I'm a drummin mama too. People always get angry when we jam though. " stupid hippies". IM NOT EVEN A HIPPIE! I hope I can get all figured out like you have Mama.

 

Picked on by whom? Infants don't discuss who does or doesn't have a television. As kids get older, if you have to use daycare, you find one geared toward positive learning experiences, and more than likely his peers will have TV limits if they are allowed to watch at all...same thing with school, find a good monassourri(sp) and chances are that many of his classmates won't be TV watchers or home-school & then network with other homeschooling families for peer interaction.

Try checking out the parenting forum on HipForums...lots of healthy solutions to the problems facing parents today

edit-ok, I'll admit it, I posted before I finished reading the whole thread. Look sis, I lived in a school bus in Kansas City's crack haven when my son was young...a dead body was found just behind his best friend's house & his best friend was almost kid-napped trying to chase after his puppy who escaped from the yard...in broad daylight. For a short time, we live in an apartment when someone was shot in a drive by.

And my son turned out fine...he'll be 18 in a week, he doesn't drink, he doesn't do drugs & he doesn't cuss...most of the time he is a polite & curtious young man.

A community may be your answer, it may not be, but if you jump into something too fast, you may regret your decision

 

You should take your child to the library, they don't allow the dealers & hos to get out of hand there....You should get on a public bus or drive to safe playgrounds...even to the local McDonalds if that's all you can get to. Don't like the dim apartment? paint it! Play with your child! Let him sit a plastic pool in the middle of your living room & let him pour water from cup to cup. Put a freaking sandbox in the living room! You have to want to find solutions sis.

 

Entering a commune means inviting those who are outside into your home.
If you can't stand the crackheads and ho's from a distance you should have a back up plan for what you will do when the commune has a recovering addict who relapses, or allows alternative-lifestyle junkies with no common sense or respect for kids to visit for weeks on end and sometimes never leave. I've been there and I freaked out to hell. Thankfully the house was mine and I had the ability to kick everyone to the curb to keep my kids safe from the large stumbling chain-smoking, hepatitis and staph infected, hygiene lacking, violent morons that came along on the peace and love train..errr rainbow trail.
Personally I would rather make my own space and invite those into it that have long proven their ability to be safe, sane and independent friends. It takes longer than putting on a backpack and hitching to a commune but the rules belong to mama and you can probably avoid having to carry people that can't even be trusted to be around kids.

 

Re: parks

In my experience the dealers, hookers, etc. tend to stay in their own parts of the park (under trees, near the bathroom, by the road,etc) and don't spend a lot of time high and hanging off the monkey bars in the playground.
Maybe your addicts are different though...all tripping and attracted to the pretty colored slides?

 

I agree with HHB on the fact that it takes a lot of energy to make relationships work in a community farm setting like that. There are other options though. I have found some folks here in NE Washington that rent out spots on their mountain property. You can buy a bus and park it or build a shack. You have to make your own electric and and there are springs so digging a well is very possible. Rent is cheap at $50 to $100 a month and the school bus to the local school district will run there. To help you get started you can apply for state aid, cash and food. There is work around or buy a truck and cut and sell wood to the mill in town 8 miles away, from the state land or national forest. This makes a little money and helps reduce the local fire danger by removing dead standing trees.
HHB is also correct in the fact that you cant run away from Babylon or get away totally, and what your son is exposed to is totally up to you and his dad, no matter where you are.
If you want more info feel free to pm me here...
Peace, Tokin.