this is my first post here...thought id say hi and introduce myself...the name's jake, prefer the nickname Heretic...dont let the name fool you, im not a devil worshipper i got my own...personal meanin behind it...but anywayz...ive been into a lot of the psychic and magick stuff a lot...i got friends who have been helpin me develop my abilities...except one that i have a question for... curious...is anyone here advanced enough, or have any idea, on how to, in essence, speed up the mind so that the world around you and time appears to slow down? and before anyone says "itz impossible" (as i have been told about many psychic abilities, including things i can do) i do it more or less when i start racin or wrestle my friends...i want to practice and develop my ability to turn it on and off when i want...and advance it so that i can react faster anywayz, hope to get to know people here...been lookin for a new forum to chill at and talk about spiritual stuff since my main forum went down a couple years ago... ~jake
Yeah, I don't think it works that way. Besides, you want to use it for personal gain, and that is not how divine power works.
yeah, trust me, you don't really want to do that. when you work with energy, and start processing the kinds of energy we as divine beings are capable of, you'll realize that time really doesn't go very fast at all, in fact, it's not linear, and so everything operating linearly is really going very "fast" or so it seems. speeding up the mind is really just a "trick" to keep yourself from seeing your true self... it's something that pretty much everyone on this planet already does!
sorry if it doesnt work that way...i guess it does for me tho...i have worked hard to unlock the abilities i already have and i use them when i feel like...wait, no, they turn themselves on most of the time, i have a hard time turnin them off...i only got two abilities i can turn on or off... sometimes i have used them for personal gain and no divine power has taken them away from me yet...usin them for personal gain has given me the drive to try to achieve them...tho i will say i dont know what divine entity granted me my divine power...or maybe i jus got it on my own, idk bout that...all i know is i can and i practice when i can... i mainly came here to ask that question tho, maybe make new friends but idk...but if time doesnt go fast at all, how can i reach the point where i can see that? i already do that when i start racin...i jus wanna be able to do it when i feel like it rather than havin to be put into dangerous situations where im a risk to myself and others im not really worried bout askin about my other abilities or anythin, i know how to use them and i have unlocked them and been advancin...the only thing i havent been able to figure out is how to control my ability to "slow things down" and was hopin someone had an idea on some method on how to practice controllin it so i wouldnt have to be racin or in some dangerous situation to turn it on...basically, i wanna learn control over it rather than it turnin on or off by itself...
Heretic, I don't really know, but thought I'd throw in the tiny bit I can relate to. Some years ago I tried a meditation a few times where I tried to speed up my perception. I somehow got this idea that if I could close the gap between my sense inputs and my thoughts about those inputs, I could get closer to reality. I don't know if this is true or not. What I do know is that one time after I did this meditation intensely for a long time, the spirits rewarded me for it. My telepathic perceptions became significantly clearer and more immediate. And that's all I know. Was it the speeding-up exercise that did this? Or was it maybe my intense desire to come closer to reality?
heretic... i wasn't trying to tell you that you're doing anything wrong, just trying to explain kind of how time works. and i just have to say, you didn't "receive divine powers" from any divine being, rather we are all divine beings, and it is the revelation of our own divinity that allows us to work miracles, or exhibit "special abilities." ok... since you're focused on time, and how it works, and the ability to speed things up or slow them down, rent the movie "the peaceful warrior." i think you might be able to relate, and i think things might just go "boom" in a big way for you! maybe not, but it's worth a try! good luck with what you're trying to find or gain.
We are all divine as Human beings, every single one of us, you are not the only one with these "divine" powers. When I say it doesn't work that way, it doesn't divine powers are not to be used for sole personal gain, they are to be used out of love. Sure, you can use them personally, and advance these powers all for your own gain, but when you think of the whole, you advance soooooooooo much more ansd you'll soon realize that what you were doing before was mere childs play.
ya i know you werent tryin to tell me i did anythin wrong...im jus sayin...i dont like hearin "you cant use this or that for personal gain" cuz in my opinion, almost everythin is involved with personal gain one way or another...and i know i dont recieve divine powers, i have been to psychic forums and spiritual forums before that think they have to get it from some where...or treat their "abilities" (as i like to call them, rather than "powers") as some form of entity that would stop if the person tried to use the ability for one thing or another...ive had a lot of experiences with people tryin to push their own beliefs on me and tell me im wrong or that im doin things wrong...ive heard a lot that "if you use your abilities for personal gain, nothin will happen" NakedTreeHugger...is it a new movie? and as for tryin to gain, basically im tryin to gain some abilities that could help me survive...you never know what might be around the corner...not sayin im scared of death, i have no fear of death...jus id rather choose to not die know what i mean? i have some abilities i wanna work on and my friends have been helpin me with that except for 2 of them...and one of those i can do on my own, but the other one is theo ne im askin about here i plan on joinin the military and want any kinda trainin to help do what i can to survive jus in case
Using psychic abilities for personal gain is exactly the same as using your ability in sports for personal gain. With one major difference - the scope upon which your actions resonate. It appears that one can certainly develop abilities and use them in any way, up to a point. However doing so to me is like exercising only half your body. Not equally developing your compassion and connection with the rest of humanity not to mention the natural world would seem to be a mistake if one has such abilities. In times past, it certainly appears that using such gifts for personal gain did indeed result in You cutting yourself off from them. I believe that was generally the case up 'till now. It appears that we as a species have advanced enough where we trust ourselves (or able to) a little more than that. However, you have to be incredibly Lucky for this to not eventually backfire or cause a backlash, because without gnowing more than you do (that is, without the linkages to the full scope of the resonance (that is, without gnosis of your own divinity)) those resonances cause unpredictable results because they are guided from too small a scope. Of course YMMV, and perhaps you are on the correct path. It does seem that from what you said this is likely the case (e.g. your powers generally emerging by themselves) however too great a focus on just the aspect of personal gain will warp you in ways you will eventually not like. I would mainly advise caution. I'm glad that you're trying to find safer methods of accessing this mode of perception. To be slightly more on topic, I would suggest meditation, specifically pointed, or concentrating, meditation. An hourglass should do the trick nicely. Concentrate on the narrow neck as the sand passes through the upper to the lower chamber. Do not try to speed up your mind, try to slow down the sand. Yes, it may be boring, but it also may work. This does a couple of things, and i'll try to explain. First, using an hourglass connects the work with Time in a very concrete sense - you are then working on multiple levels. Second, meditation generally slows down your body. While taking adrenaline out of the picture may seem counterintuitive, adrenaline is actually a crutch that seems to help you get into the proper state. To be able to control your ability then, either means always going into an adrenaline drenched state or disposing of the crutch. You already have the feeling of what this should be like, you should be able to use that as a trigger instead of adrenaline. Of course, what nakedtreehugger said is also true - time really doesn't work like that. (i'm not really sure what time is "really" like except perhaps a simultaneity that we manage to pattern into our observable reality) This should not prevent you from acting as if it does work like you think, and actually having experiences that conform to your belief. Solidly practical and observable experiences. Good luck.
ya, personally, and i dont want to offend you or anyone about this, but i kinda wanna leave my beliefs on "using things for personal gain" and such, as well as what entities and dieties we may look up to or not...alone...itz nothin personal to all of you guys, i have jus had a lot of people tell me im wrong about this or that...where i personally believe all gods/dieties exist...jus a matter of politics and which ones you follow should go with the morals and values of which you feel in your heart is right, which would be different for everyone...plus, idk what YMMV is either and yes, i do believe i am VERY lucky (except with girls...i have fortune in all aspects of my life, i need one aspect to balance it out...ugh, girls and love is a bad area for me ) on topic...hmm, my friend once gave me a hourglass meditation to do but was different, mental hourglass to help me maintain focus (somethin i lacked but have slowly gained...i have my own type of focus that has been workin for me now) but the real hourglass makes sense...now that i think of it, i cant believe i didnt think of it before! i know time isnt exactly linear...hell, we could all jus be livin out events that have already happend, our minds are jus delayed (like a star goin supernova but still seein it in the sky cuz of the time delay and the distance for the light to travel...which was wierd cuz i did see a supernova before when i was campin) im tryin to find a way to at least think beyond and outside of time so that i can react better and faster for my own survival purposes... i dont try to rely on adrenaline...i jus know thats the only way i have been able to activate my ability...tryin to find control over it rather than stuck with adrenaline...
Ok, i personally think you are right on target with Sometimes, and I speak for myself, it's just very easy to mistake what is right in my heart with my Egoic response to want. And even easier to do so when my ego is partially right (or right for the wrong reasons)! Oh, YMMV="your mileage may vary" - very similar to what you said - "it would be different for everyone". So I agree, enough said about that. Perhaps my use of "crutch" was too highly loaded a word. Your adrenaline is acting as a trigger for the ability, as you said. My suggestion is that you need to find some way that does not involve this trigger (or in the best case, cuts out the possibility of involving this trigger) and thus i suggested meditation. This is probably a much better statement of your goal than the one I originally heard from your post (i.e. tryinng to speed up your mind). It's both better and less defined and allows multiple paths toward results. Sorry I don't have any additional insights to give you as to how to do this at this time. I'll be trying this myself and if I obtain any results I'll definitely let you know. I would expect my observables to be such things as: 1) being able to catch things I've knocked off surfaces with a single smooth grab 2) picking up a glass of milk i've knocked over before any contents spill 3) being able to watch a leaf fall for subjectively a long time 4) being able to track/interact with multiple modes of input/output simultaneously (such as talking on the phone while typing a detailed message) 5) knowing what is to happen split seconds in advance in situations i should logically have no reason to know Let me know what type of experimental criteria you are using if you'd care to.
numbers 4 and 5 seem to be somethin i have been able to do before...thats what i mean with focus, im not one that can focus on one set thing easily, but i can seperate my focus' (or foci? dont know the plural to it) and make it so that i can manage them easier than tryin to put all my focus on 3 things (hard to explain...focus on each of the three serperately rather than put all focus on three, idk how else to explain it)... as for number 5, i kinda feel like i do that a lot of the times anywayz...whenever i fight or wrestle someone, i always happen to move right at the last second...idk, maybe i jus got some bad ass reaction time when i focus or maybe i sense whats gonna happen...i was thinkin bout that today and think that could be what im doin rather than unconciously "speedin my mind up" or "slowin time for me down" or whatever, but i remember seein things start slowin down too...maybe itz a combination of all the factors, i cant really say
I believe what you need to learn is how to exist in a timeless interdimensional state. Except, you won't be able to do this until you start the path to enlightenment. What you are doing now is nothing more than simple tricks; why bother on the little stuff when you could control your entire life and outcome in every situation, absolute and instant manfiestation. Learning how the interdimensional world works for you. Time is non-linear. Learn to live in the now. Seems to me your looking for "movie-like" powers, for your own personal reasons, stuff you could show off or stuff that would give you an advantage of simple things in everyday life. Nothing wrong with that, you can continue along that path, but it is just tricks and nothing more. Your abilities are limited in comparison to one who is working in harmony with the overall good/divine. Are you sure you don't want to push open the doors of your full potential?
How are you so sure that he is not already walking that path? I suspect that goes for the majority that inhabit places such as these. It appears to me that he is already well ahead of the curve given the slight glimpse of the earth's human population I have been privy to. In other words, I don't believe it is possible to have such abilities unless your base level is high. Yet then, in this life there is a choice (look at what Hitler decided to do with his Mad Charisma (and it certainly was Powerful - there can really be no doubt of that). So it does appears that over and over one must develop the conscious level of enlightenment. I believe that even these 'simple tricks' as you call them broaden one's understanding of reality. We seem to learn best by doing. Are you certain that these simple tricks do not lead to enlightenment? Also, what do you suggest, then? How does one go about learning how the interdimensional world works for them? Examples, please. What would you suggest is a better path to work in harmony with the overall good/divine? Are not we all part of the divine? Do all our desires not ultimately stem from this place, including this one? I believe that every seeker is seeking the divine, each in their own way. I guess what I would ask of you is to be more explicit. In your opinion, how should one go about pushing open the doors of one's full potential? I for one am certainly willing to push open the doors to my full potential but your post doesn't give me much to go on in that regard, so help me out, would you? Certainly one *can* get caught up in advancing one's 'abilities' (and Ultimately i believe that a monomanic focus on this is a trap) but that is not to say that one *shouldn't* focus on them. Finally, maybe I have just been underprivileged, but I have never seen someone with the control over physical and manefestational reality you suggest is possible. I would certainly love to meet them, as I do believe it is possible but so far even the most enlightened persons I have met have not been able to so much as light a candle across the room much less "control your entire life and outcome in every situation, absolute and instant manifestation". Perhaps you would call the former a "movie power", however we have tales of multiple enlightened beings doing all those types of things - flying, teleportation, transmutation, etc. If you have a different take on this I would appreciate some examples of what you mean especially by "absolute and instant manifestation". I wrote an email about a very similar topic set (getting into the dichotomy and play between enlightenment and these types of powers) to a friend of mine once not too long ago. If there is any interest I could see if he'd agree to letting me excerpt it here.
