Simple Extraction (DMT)

hi everyone

So i've been steadily gaining an interest in chemistry to the point where i am interested in performing a dmt extraction. Only the thing is i'm a beginner and i don't trust myself with dangerous chemicals used in the process of extraction. I'm wondering what easily obtainable chems/chems that won't send you to hospital i could use to extract dmt.

I've heard that dmt is water soluable? Keep in mind that i'm in australia so brand names don't help.

peace

 

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/extraction_guide1/dmt_extraction_guide1.shtml

This is helpful, pretty much everything you need to know is here.
The hardest part is actualy getting the chems. It would be helpful if you could obtain them over the net, otherwise you should be able to get them from a shop that sells pool maintenance stuff

 

Thanks man, i'm pretty familiar with erowid. I've already seen that guide and it seemed a bit technical in my opinion. There's actually a better guide by an australian dude specifically refering to acacia which is the genus i'll be extracting from. I actually think using pool chemicals would be ok except for the possibility of residue of the chemicals being left over in the extract, i'm sure smoking any of these wouldn't be great for your health.

But to be honest, from what i've learnt so far it seems that an extraction even in it's simplest form requires a chemical that is potentially harmful. Anyway i'll read a lot more and post back. And when i find the safest extraction method with the highest yeild i'll post and let the psychedelic forum members know.

peace

 

The science behind it is actualy really simple and easy, and the chems arent dangerous if you handle them right, thers really not much risk involved.

As I said before Before researching too in depth about the process, check to see if you can actualy obtain the chems.
Im from NZ so American brand names mean nothing to me either.
I wanted to peform a dmt extraction but I couldnt obtain the the ph test strips without ordering them off the net.

 

Ahh cool man. So did you get the strips after all? Yeah i've been reading about dmt for a while now, i want to know as much as possible before i attempt an extraction. I'm sure i could get the chems needed it's just that i'm going to try eleminate them from the process in favour of harmless household stuff you might find in the pantry. whether or not this is possible remains to be seen but i guess we'll find out.

Keep in touch man and i'll let you know about my sucesses (spelling?) and failures!

cheers

 

Yeah, please keep us posted. Thers been so many threads about "hey im going to do a dmt extraction", but no one ever posts back to report if its sucsessful or not.

Im sure the chems are probably easier to get in Aus than nz, especialy if you live in the city. And remember that you dont have to use the exact chems that are used in the extractions on the net, anything that is strongly basic and acidic.

I never got the ph strips in the end, Il guess il wait till I move out of my parents house so I can have a bit more freedom lol

Btw cool sig pic

 

No problem man, yeah from what i know most chems are easily attainable from hardware stores and the like. About the quote, this is kind of why i started the thread, because i'm sure you could find house hold things with a strong enough ph to work. Anyway, bad luck about the ph strips dude lol, the sig pic os from a dude called banksy, an english street artist.

peace

 

can you extract dmt from yopo with methylated spirits?



http://shaman-australis.com.au/shop/index.php?cPath=21_26_53

 

VM&P (naptha) for your non-polar, pool acid (muriatic), and robic drain cleaner.

 

I don't really know much about the DMT extraction you are trying to perform but i know that you can make your one ph-strips out of the petals of some plants and other coloured parts,you'll have to research a bit...maybe this could help,maybe not it all depends on how exact you have to know the ph...

anyway good luck with your work...

 

http://www.dmt-nexus.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=70

That's what i used, it was a year ago and i know we modified it slightly, but it was very easy, first extraction took a few hours, but then after that u can just keep goin...it worked out very well...1 lb root bark ~ 120 or so doses, chems were at a local hardware store and root bark was cheap as shit finely powdered on ebay....update if u do it

 

its just a simple acid/base extraction, as most plant extracted drugs are. there are many ways, u can even use vinegar as the acid, however, you will get an acetate that requires 4x the amount of the hydrochloride (useing muratic acid). really u gotta watch out for having leftover base (lye) in your product. u can tell cause it will make your body burn. if your crystals are yello theyr not that pure, the darker the colur the worse. bright yello should be ok but white is purest. erowid qt method works. its also step by step with pics.

 

ahh cool, thanks for the info whitefoot. I'm still yet to even begin to try an extraction and unfortunately it looks like it will be a while yet. I WILL let you all know though so keep an eye out!!!

peace

 

First off I'm new here. I did a search on DMT extraction and it brought me here. So first and foremost, what's up everyone..glad to be here...

This is a little lengthy, so bare with me...

Well here it goes. Basically, I'm in the same boat as you peaceful son. I am very interested in trying DMT. I have been for quite some time now. So last summer I decided to try to extract some. Now before I tell you about it I will let you know that I am no chemist. I took a few intro-type courses at college but that's about it. So anyways, I searched the net for some good techniques and finally decided to try to pull some from mimosa using naptha and lye. People on the internet make the techs appear very safe and easy to perform, so I decided to give it a shot.

When doing the process, I was very paranoid that what I was doing was very dangerous (bc of all the warnings on the lye container) but I was so set in trying DMT that I kept doing it. At the end of it, I had what looked to be DMT, but I noticed a few specks in it. I also noticed that it was far from the pure white crystals that a lot of people explained. Instead, it was a dark yellowish color (which Whitefoot just pointed out is far from pure). So, I started thinking maybe I didn't do it right. I ended up storing it in a vial in a cool, dark area and have not touched it since.

I have a few questions. (#1 is the most important one I ask)

1. If there is still lye on it, can it be fatal? This is why I have been so afraid to try it. I'm afraid that I might try the stuff and then never wake up again if you know what I mean.

2. If there is still lye on it, what is the best way to purify it? Is there a way I could do it without using potentially harmful chemicals? Once again, I am no chemist. The whole process of using lye kind of made me nervous.

3. I have had it stored for about 8 months. Do you think it has lost most of its potency by this point anyways?

Thanks in advance for any answers. Sorry if I'm coming off sounding like a newb. I'm actually fairly experienced with psychedelics, I just have crazy health anxiety sometimes. Once I put the idea in my head that it could be fatal, I was too afraid to try it (even though I really want to). Now I still have that urge to try it and if I realize that it is impossible to severely harm myself from a little smoked lye, then I would love to finally experience dmt.

Once again, thanks in advance....

 

Hi.

I think you've already done the dangerous stuff with lye and everything is fine now.

I think part of the reason for the cold ammonia wash (like in marsofold tek) is supposed to dissolve any lye remaining in the crystal, but I think a lot of people don't do that (a lot of teks don't mention it). Maybe lye does not dissolve in naptha well. (Notice the "I think" and "maybe"...if someone could verify, that'd be great.)

You could taste a little tiny bit on your tongue....or put a little tiny bit in water and rub it on your hands. It would probably feel soapy and burn if it had a significant amount of lye....but since you are feeling paranoid and this is so subjective, it's probably a bad test for you to perform. You will probably think there's lye even if there's not.

I don't think it's uncommon to have off white or yellow crystal and it's likely plant material, especially if you go straight to base instead of doing an acid extract and discarding the plant material. I think a lot of DMT that you would find at festivals these days is pinkish or yellowish. What you have is probably fine as is.

I think it's pretty stable, so if hasn't been sitting completely exposed to air for a long time it's fine.

To get whiter crystals, you can re-crystallize by mixing the crystals with just enough naptha to cover all the crystals in a mason jar, and maybe put the jar containing the crystals and naptha into hot water to help the crystal dissolve. (Don't put the water in the same jar...put the bottom of the sealed jar in hot water just to heat it a little.) Then freeze precipitate in shallow dish (like marsofold tek). People say to first put in fridge, then freezer (slowly go from room temp to freezing) to help cause the different material to precipitate at different times. After it's recrystallized, you have whiter crystal with some gunkier crystals separated. Maybe first lightly scrape the top of the crystals, then scrape harder to get gunkier stuff. People usually recrystallize when it's really oily and doesn't crystallize well at all...so probably not necessary for you.

So...my advice would be to take a little bit and try smoking it as is. If you're really paranoid about lye do a quick cold ammonia wash...or if you want all the plant material out, recrystallize.

I normally wouldn't advice starting with a tiny bit, because you can't get the full DMT experience unless you take a full dose (40-50mg). But, since you are a little paranoid about it, it might not be great to take a full dose right off the bat because you could have a bad experience...you might think you hurt yourself even though everything is fine. Once you feel okay....try the full dose.

Also....regular black olives are cured in lye (http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/products/specialty/olives.html) and maraschino cherries are soaked in lye and re-colored. Maybe pretzels too (http://www.artofdrink.com/2007/10/pretzels-and-cocktails.php). Soap generally made with lye. So...even though lye is involved in DMT extraction doesn't make it poison. I don't think a lot of soap makers are chemists.

The main thing is to enjoy this wonderful substance. It's really pretty amazing stuff. And let us know how it went. I think you'll be happy you did.

Worse case, send it to me and I'll take it (kidding).

 

Thanks a lot for your reply. I already feel a lot better about it. That's interesting that some foods are processed with it, I had no idea. I'm still a little paranoid because of things like this I find on the web: "Solid sodium hydroxide or solutions containing high concentrations of sodium hydroxide may cause chemical burns, permanent injury or scarring, and blindness. Lye (sodium hydroxide) may be harmful or fatal if swallowed." (from wikipedia).

Now I know what I bolded says "fatal if swallowed" but something that is potentially fatal is what drives this paranoia I have about it.

I'm sure this is an extreme circumstance and you would probably have to digest a lot of it, but I hate seeing things such as this. Does Lye have some sort of reaction when it is heated with a lighter? I realize I am coming off sounding crzay, but hey baby steps right?! I will eventually overcome this (what sounds to be) irrational fear.

Well I prob won't be sending it to you anytime soon I do still plan on trying it. I have read "The Spirit Molecule" and have been so curious for some time now. I'm ready to go to the DMT dimension. Thanks peacegrow

 

swip got some powdered mhrb, and is following QT's tek to some extent. put the powder with 10% acetic (vinegar) in a jar, and is going to forget about it for a while; extract with DCM.

someone experienced in these things told him not to bother with recrystallization, people who've even synthed it add mineral oil to the crystals...something about heat distribution, when vaporizing the final product

 

@ TheKitch- Welcome dude!! I hope you find all the info you need on these forums and make friends along the way. Yeah man i probably didn't mention it in my first post but i'm also yet to experience dmt. I actually have a source but it's all over the place and is inconsistent when it comes to supply. Which is why i want to synth my own.
I've actually been really lazy on the whole thing because i still haven't got the bark that i need, so i say i'll get my arse into gear once i have the material. Also thanks to everyone who has given info/advice/experience on the subject, greatly appreciated and read with great enthusiasm (spelling)!!!

Peace

 

I thought of something else you could try...even though I still think you are fine.

If you have DMT crystals in a jar or glass, you can put that jar into some almost boiling water and the DMT will melt. It will become a liquid. This will not happen with lye AFAIK.

So, if you take a little bit and put it in a glass, and put that glass in very hot water to heat it, it will turn to liquid. (Or you could put it on a spoon and heat it from underneigth.) It will liquify and kind of prove that it doesn't have any lye in it.

Again...I think you're fine already, but I'm trying to come up with ideas to ease your mind so that when you do try it you will feel okay about it...which is important. I can tell you are very causious and analytical, so you want to be 100% sure you are safe, which is very smart.

 

Peacegrow, thank you once again. I'm going to try the above method you just mentioned. I will be sure to post back with how everything goes....