The Federal Reserve Bank (Important questions)

1. What, if any thing at all, is keeping the Federal Reserve away from conducting monetary/lending business direct with the states' state governments instead of going through the federal government?

2. If all the states go independent, after breaking away from the federal government, would then the Federal Reserve Bank be free to choose to conduct monetary/lending business practices directly with those then independent states?

3. Plus, why cant the Federal Reserve Bank stop at will from conducting monetary/lending business with the federal government, if the Federal Reserve is privately owned and isn't the federal government?

4. In the event Washington D.C. (the federal government's base) becomes desolate somehow, what would the Federal Reserve do to function for America? Are there measures in place? Or am I the only thinker thinking the only measure would be too damn good to be true that the federal government wouldnt want realized by the other state governments or the rest of us Americans?

 

The Federal Reserve! Pressed Rat will respond in 3...2...1

 

Here I am... three hours later. (I don't come here as much lately.)

The Federal Reserve does not work for the American people, as it is not even part of the US government. It works for the private international bankers, who are the owners of the private banks, which make up the private Federal Reserve. The word "federal" serves only to mislead you into thinking it's a government institution.

I don't really know what you're getting at with the states vs. federal stuff.

The Federal Reserve exists only to do exactly what it is doing today, which is to transfer the remaining wealth from the American people, to the private bankers who own all the big transnationals, prime infrastructure, natural resources, most of the politicians, and pretty much everything under the sun. They are the ones who print the money and run the world economy. To them, money is just a vehicle of control. They couldn't really care less about money the way most people do. Power and control is what motivates these people.

 

Yes. The US government is simply another vehicle of control for the same people who own the Fed. That's why the government works for the interests of the big banks and corporations -- not the people. The Fed owns the Federal Government, which works for the Fed's private owners.

I still don't know what you're getting at. Why would the Fed want to stop doing business with the Federal government, when they control that government lock, stock and barrel?

The states would never be allowed to break away from the Federal government, though there has been a good deal of talk about it recently.

 

1> The Federal Reserve Bank conducts business through District Branches of the Fed. New York has a branch. there may be around 11 branches. State goverments are not in the money business, they are not players. There are a few states within each Fed.Branch. The Fed was born in 1913. Its purpose is to moderate boom and bust cycles in the economy.

Think The Movie: The Wizard of OZ..... Oz. being an ounce of gold, the understory of the movie is about economics and goverment intervention as the result of econonic crashes. The role of the Fed has always been poorly understood and subject to suspicion of "the man behind the curtain"

2> If the States become independent, then each State will retain the perogative of coining its own currency as it was from 1776 until about 1789. The Fed will be out of business.

3> The Federal Reserve Bank is a dependency on the Goverment thier mission is to serve the goverment. These guys could earn WAY more money in the private sector. They serve partly out of a sense of service. No goverment, No Fed.

4> In this scenario paper money would become worthless. it would be like Arnachy

:jester:
http://online.wsj.com/public/page/opinion.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/index.html?Intro=intro3

http://www.federalreserve.gov/default.htm

http://www.federalreserveeducation.org/fed101/

 

LOL!!

Please tell me you're not serious.

Yeah, they do it out of their love for the people.

Too funny.

BTW, you have it all backwards. The government serves the FED. If it was the other way around, you would be implying that our politicians, who are bought and paid for by the big banks and transnationals, have authority over they people they're working for. That would be very contradictory and not make very much sense.

 

The original questions make no sense.

Rat I think you got conned again, you probably don't understand how the Federal Reserve banks differ from the actual monetary policy setting parts of the Fed. Most people who believe these conspiracy theories don't understand that difference.

You should try reading this.

 

I already know all that. Who do you think the people that set the monetary policy work for? When the president picks the Fed chairman, he must choose from a list provided to him by the private banks themselves. This is well-documented and common knowledge. The reality is that the president, himself being a puppet on strings, is told who to appoint by the banks. Again, the board of the Federal Reserve is to simply provide the illusion that it's a Federal institution. It's not.

The people who set the monetary policy answer directly to the private bankers themselves. They don't work for the government -- they work for the private banks that own this country and the government.

So no, it looks like you were the one who was conned (again), along with 98% of the dumbed-down public that gorges themselves on fast food cheeseburgers and American Idol.

 

Who exactly are these big international banks?> who are these international bankers? i hear so much about them yet i never hear theyre names...is it supposed to be like that? there has to be some evidence of who is raking in all the money...

 

LOL. Obviously you didn't even read it at all. If you had "known all that" you wouldn't be repeating a theory with so many holes in it. Your conspiracy theories are faith-based, not reality-based.

 

I didn't read it because I've read it all before.

 

The private international banks that make up the Federal Reserve. Google the names Rockefeller, Rothschild, Warburg, Morgan, Harriman, etc..

 

Mac, you have to keep in mind that rat is repeating a conpsiracy theory that is very old, so the banks he is obsessed with were big international banks - in the early 1900s! Now they are either merged with other banks or no longer major players, and the ownerships have long since changed. Nobody bothers to update these theories since the readers don't particular care.

Also, when he says "the private banks that make up the Federal Reserve" he means "I don't actually understand how the Federal Reserve works but that's what the conspiracy websites say". Private banks do not make up the Federal Reserve, they make up (i.e. are shareholders of) the Regional Federal Reserve Banks, which are not the policy making part of the Federal Reserve System. The conspiracy theories depend on their fans being too ignorant to understand this distinction. Anyone who has studied even a little bit on the subject would know better.

 

So what you're saying is that the old monied families have simply lost all their power and vanished over time? Are you saying the owners of the big banks are not internationalists? They don't fund wars? The Rockefellers? The Rothschilds? They don't exist? What "other banks" have they merged with?

I have already explained the BS about the Fed board being the policy makers. You conveniently ignore this. Those "policy makers" answer directly to the bankers themselves. They don't work for the American people. They serve only to provide the illusion of the Fed being a government institution when its not, nor ever was. They might present the illusion of being seperate from the banks, when they are taking their orders directly from these banks. Again, when the president chooses the Fed chairman, he must choose from a list that's provided to him BY THE BANKS. This is the official procedure. However, the true reality is that the president, being a puppet of the big banks, is told who to appoint.

 

They never controlled the world Rat, sorry to burst your bubble. They were wealthy and powerful, that's all. They are still wealthy and influential but their relative importance has vastly diminished. They have been eclipsed by new money, the IT billionaires, and people like Buffet.

The big banks are owned by millions of shareholders, their ownership is extremely fragmented. They are not owned by individuals. The Rockefellers have had no more than 1% of what is now JPMorgan Chase since the 1960s.

The US government doesn't borrow from banks, it issues Treasury bonds. This is basic economics.

Exist? Of course they exist. They don't have super powers though.

Well the Equitable Trust was acquired by the Chase National Bank, which merged with the Manhattan company, and this was later acquired by Chemical Bank, but kept the Chase Manhattan Name. It later acquired JP Morgan Chase and Bank One and is now called JPMorgan Chase. Warburg, if you mean SG Warburg, was bought by UBS.

Wait... why am I doing all this research for you? I've never even once see you do anything but ignore information that doesn't support your conspiracy theories.

Of course I ignore hearsay that I know to be false. You may as well tell me the magic rabbits appoint the FOMC, you have just as much proof.

It is and it has always been.

If its the official procedure, then you will be able to point me to an official government website, or an mainstream news article that describes this OFFICIAL PROCEDURE, and you won't have to go to some crackpot conspiracy website (anyway I say that knowing its crap, they can appoint anyone they want). Most likely you will refuse to back this up like so many other things you say.