Why vote for Obama?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by LaughinWillow, Feb 4, 2008.

  1. XBloodyNailPolishX

    XBloodyNailPolishX Forgetful Philosopher

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    wow... thats a very interesting prediction... would be very scary if it happened, but that makes a lot of sense.
     
  2. kklilveggies

    kklilveggies Member

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    there's something about obama i don't trust. i'm glad it's not just me. ps vote for me in 08.
     
  3. decriminalize

    decriminalize Member

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    Obama is great I hope he wins, and get over your fear it is disheartening
     
  4. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I am unconfortable with the Media's swooning, un-critical regard Of Sen. Obama.

    Media is supposed to be watching politicians, keeping them in check, not letting the ego swell, offering critique.

    If Chris Matthews is speakiing of getting the chills from listening to Obama, I need to tune in to more objective media.

    Obama should be questioned on the nihlistic belief system espoused in his Church.

    It was fair to question Mitt Romney about his church, cuts both ways.

    :jester:
     
  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    It appears that Obama is the choice of the New World Order elite. Obama runs nothing. He means nothing. But it appears he is the anointed one for the position of Puppet in Chief. It's the people behind him you should all be looking at. People like Zbigniew Brzezinski, who is the REAL powerbroker behind the Obama campaign. Obama is just the frontman for the elite and people like Brzezinski. So it doesn't surprise me that the media is salivating over Obama, and of course a large number of the idiot public is going right along with the hype.

    The American people really are a gullible bunch. They vote based on image and appearance, and nothing else... and that image and appearance isn't even real, but the products of speech writers, advisors, and of course the corporate CFR-controlled media.

    I see the people who will be voting for Obama as pretty much of the same awareness level as those who voted for Bush. Why? Because generally speaking these people know very little about anything in terms of geopolitics and world events. They vote based on how much they want to share a beer and burger with the candidate, rather than who that candidate really is and what they represent.
     
  6. decriminalize

    decriminalize Member

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    Everyone is whacked.
     
  7. Jack-a-Roe72

    Jack-a-Roe72 Member

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    no.

    Everyone who is anyone is paid for and is "in it" for themselves. Their actions are just as hypocritical and empty as their words. And we don't care.

    We are fucked.
     
  8. Jack-a-Roe72

    Jack-a-Roe72 Member

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    I am NOT a fatalist. I am NOT a pacifist. I HOPE I'm not a realist.
     
  9. decriminalize

    decriminalize Member

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    Get over yourself dude.
     
  10. Gravity

    Gravity #winning

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    Anyone think they might pass off one of the largest financial collapses since the 20s over to the first black(ish) president?
     
  11. Jack-a-Roe72

    Jack-a-Roe72 Member

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    somebody will have to deal with it sooner or later
     
  12. beatlelover250

    beatlelover250 Member

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    I'm voting obama, he's wat this country needs
     
  13. yonosoymedico

    yonosoymedico Member

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    I do, gravity.. i think whatever happens, we should still be moving towards focus on individual states..the federal gov't is where problems arise....
    i really dont think it matters what happens.... its already backwards and falling apart
     
  14. kc420

    kc420 Member

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    Obama is telling too many lies to vote for him. He even told a couple during the debate tonight. He said his campaign had only responded to questions when they brought up Bosnia. Outright lie. They beat the drum daily with press releases.

    Obama also said his handwriting wasn't on the questionaire. Politico.com destroys that statement as an obvious lie. Obama was for gun control before he was against it.

    A couple of weeks ago, Obama finally admitted his story about his dad's "golden Kennedy ticket" was "a mistake", so where were the weeks of media coverage about THAT "embellishment"? After his Selma tall tale that was only four years impossible, I can't believe the media let him skate on this Kennedy lie.

    I am not defending Clinton's Bosnia tale in any way, but I can't overlook Obama's lies just because Clinton lied. That seems to be the usual Obama supporter's tactic lately... "but Hillary lied too"!

    Frrankly, I am going to vote for whichever Democrat makes it to the general election. But the comments here are so slanted towards Obama I fear there has been a vat of Obama Kool-Aide has been dumped in the well here...

    An example... an early comment in the thread criticized Clinton for being the first woman on WalMart's board, and then goes on to praise Obama for his short stint as an advocate for the poor. That completely ignores the efforts Clinton made in improving WalMart's practices while she was on the board, and the decades of work Clinton put in helping the poor and minorities.

    Here are some examples:

    While at Wellesley:

    Clinton organized a two-day student strike and worked with Wellesley's black students for moderate changes, such as recruiting more black students and faculty.

    While in school, Clinton worked her way across Alaska, washing dishes in Mount McKinley National Park and sliming salmon in a fish processing cannery in Valdez (which fired her and shut down overnight when she complained about unhealthy conditions).

    While at Yale:

    Clinton worked at the Yale Child Study Center and researched early childhood brain development on the seminal work, Beyond the Best Interests of the Child (1973).

    She volunteered at New Haven Legal Services to provide free advice for the poor and took on cases of child abuse at Yale-New Haven Hospital.

    Clinton was awarded a grant to work at Marian Wright Edelman's Washington Research Project, where she was assigned to Senator Walter Mondale's Subcommittee on Migratory Labor, and researched migrant workers' problems in housing, sanitation, health and education.

    She interned on child custody cases at the Oakland, California, law firm of Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein, which was well-known for its support of constitutional rights, civil liberties, and radical causes.

    During her legal career prior to becoming First Lady of Arkansas:

    Clinton served as a staff attorney for Edelman's newly-founded Children's Defense Fund in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and as a consultant to the Carnegie Council on Children.

    She co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, a state-level alliance with the Children's Defense Fund, in 1977.

    She served as the first female chair of the board of directors of the Legal Services Corporation.

    As First Lady of Arkansas:

    Clinton was appointed as chair of the Rural Health Advisory Committee, where she successfully obtained federal funds to expand medical facilities in Arkansas' poorest areas without affecting doctors' fees.

    She also served on the boards of the Arkansas Children's Hospital Legal Services (1988–1992) and the Children's Defense Fund (as chair, 1986–1992).

    Finally, while on the Board of WalMart, Clinton pushed successfully for the chain to adopt more environmentally-friendly practices and pushed largely unsuccessfully for more women to be added to the company's management.

    THAT is a far more impressive resume as an advocate for the poor and children than Obama's. That is why I voted for Hillary in our primary, and why I urge anyone else that hasn't voted in a primary yet to look at both her and Obama's actual record.

    Both have admitted they have told what my grandpa always called tall tales. Let's get past that crap and look at the REAL issues, the real resumes of both candidates, the real record of the candidates, and make an informed decision.
     
  15. TGRR

    TGRR Member

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    I will vote for Obama, solely because his name is neither "Clinton" nor "McCain".
     
  16. SpreadneckGA

    SpreadneckGA Member

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    If you believe that i have some lovely oceanfront property in Arizona id like to sell you.
     
  17. Jack-a-Roe72

    Jack-a-Roe72 Member

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    aye... all of the candidates are a walking disaster waiting to happen...
     
  18. MagicCarpetRide

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    What scares me about McCain is that the Bushes come out and support him. That gives me a clue that McCains ways must really be closely inline with Bush.
     
  19. Varuna

    Varuna Senior Member

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    Why vote for Obama?
    He asks Americans to live up to an inspired set of ideals, with the implied expectation that we are still good and wise enough to do so.

    I want my people to be inspired. I am voting for Obama.

    Peace and Love
     
  20. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    obama is toast. he will never wiggle his way out of the reverend wright scandal..

    no church going Christian,white or black is going to believe that someone would attend a church for years and years,be married there,have your kids baptized there and not believe or agree with what the pastor is preaching from the pulpit..

    so,,if he didnt go to the church for the sermons,,he went why?? hmmmmmmm..

    NOPE,,HES TOAST..

    beyond that theres the west coast turnaround hes done on the dear reverend,remember not a month ago he said "i would no more disown reverend wright than i would my own white grandmother"..

    my his word doesnt last long now does it??

    crispy fried toast!!
     

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