Longstem is indication of whats wrong??

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  1. Greenfuzz

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    I have 3 seedlings that have long stems and wanted to know whats wrong with them>?? A friend told me it was because the dripper was landing on its leaf petals....is this true?? what Can i do to fix it if its not??
     
  2. M4N14C42O

    M4N14C42O Cannabis Connoisseur

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    its a T-5 floro and its 2ft in width there and sitting approx 6 in over seedlings.


    Is there ne way to fix it ?? so they dont keep getting longer stem and no root system. and so there frickin leaves willgrow?
     
  4. BudBill

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    Lower the light to about 2-3 " above them. Prop them up so they don't lay over and they should perk up. After awhile when they get larger you can repot them and bury the stem abit more.

    Patience. :)
     
  5. Jack-a-Roe72

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    You may need more light.
     
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    what does that fluoro put out?
     
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    I know exactly what is going on... the lights you are using have to many Red color wave lengths coming out of the light which produces more vigorous stem growth... what you want is foliage and you get that with the right mixture of red wave lengths(for stems) and blue wave lengths (for foliage)
     
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    It is still probably that the light is too far away. Flos have a decently balanced spectrum but the light is spread out along the length of the tubes so the intesity drops quickly. 6" is pretty far for seedlings. Even under a cool tubed bank of flos you can have stretching but lower that bad boy to within 2" of the plant tops and it goes away.
     
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    could have males,, did he grow directly from seeds?

    either this or he didnt plant seeds deep enough into soil. gently build soil around stem and it will be lower to the ground..lol....next time bury them in at least 1 1/2 inch in soft soil..
    idk.. 6'' is high from seedling,
     
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    6" is average length for a male :D
     
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    :jester: no pun intended..lol but a "5 dollar foot long"... I couldnt resist..lol...
     
  13. st3wy

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    The trick with the lights is to keep them within 2" of the tops of your trees
     
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    Keep in mind some strains stretch a lot as seedlings. Sour diesel IBL comes to mind.

    If the problem is genetic, chances are there is little you can do at this stage. As the plant progresses you can start LSTing (low stress training), topping, or even try a product called Bushmaster.
     
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    yes this isnt a big issue, Sometimes they do.. Nothing to be to woried about, Its why we made jokes about it.. Remember the stem itself develops roots If you start them shallower and build soil up around them.
     
  16. Born25YearsTooLate

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    What I've done with a plant like that that got leggy, was simply lay it over and cover the nodes with soil, and let it clone itself. (the nodes drop adventitious roots and since there's no axial tip hormone production, the plant develops what would be 'side stems' into new, full stems with it's own leaf tips.) I've trained one plant around like that into a loop nearly 6' long if the plant'd been standing. Had a dozen or so small shrubs after I upped the lighting. basically loosen the rootball, lay the stem over onto your soil, sift soil over, leaving the leaves exposed, and make sure the rootball's well buried again. (the only reason we loosen is to make sure we dont' break the stem) with the original rootball in place, all the little shrubs get nutrients from the stem (which doesn't rot, believe it or not) as well as from their own rootsets.
     
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    you my freind are a genius..I was saying once that a Oaxacan strain can be trained to vine and grow, I also found that it was as simple cloning strain by doing exactly what you did and making new plants by buried the limbs, I think you can add a hormone to prevent rot also, But I never got any root rot either. Low humidity good soil management.. But I did this indoors and out,
    They will be weak when you cut and transfer them, But thats with any clone.
     
  18. Born25YearsTooLate

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    works a wonder with tomatoes, too.
    :D
     
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    i have 3 sprouts doing the exact same thing.
     
  20. Born25YearsTooLate

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    I've also had good success by NOT elevating the lights, but hanging the lights vertically, one 4' flouro strip per every 2' around the outside of the grow area, so the light output reaches all parts of the plants evenly (in the small closet I'd been using, I only have room for 3 fixtures like that, but the difference was huge and it helped the whole inside was flat white) You'll have to rotate the plants because of tropism, but that's a lot easier to rotate once a week than have to raise the light every 2 days.

    Orison, part of the fun thing about laying the leggy stem out and bury it, is as so long you don't damage the stem, it won't rot, so it feeds the babies. You can let them get very strong before you transplant them, and that helps with the shockiness.
     

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