Is it Hard To Get Pure MDMA?

Discussion in 'MDMA - X' started by Jay_Billionz, Apr 12, 2008.

  1. Jay_Billionz

    Jay_Billionz Member

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    In America? I hear all these stories about how ecstasy has GHB, Heroin, DXm and crap in it... I dont know about you guys but I dont want that shit. I mean I wouldnt mind if it maybe had caffiene in it but thats all. So is it hard?
     
  2. NeuroDr

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    idk...ive never done it...but i have gone on here and it seems like it may be useful, tho none of the actual pills ive seen are on here...lol

    ecstasydata.org

    it seems like there are a lot of cut pills, but there are also many out there with MDA/MDMA
     
  3. natebozung535

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    I'd be happy to get a pill with some ghb or heroin in it....

    No the things you need to watch for are amphetamines and meth amphetamines.

    Pure mdma (molly) I have found hard to get ahold of, it all depends on who tyou know i guess. Some people have no trouble finding it.
     
  4. NeuroDr

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    molly is MDA isn't it? MDMA is ecstasy...and hells yea bout the (meth)amphetamine, that sux...but ecstasy is methamphetamine...lol
     
  5. Stiney

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    Molly is just a slang term so it can mean different things to different people in different places. But usually Molly is used to refer to pure(ish) MDMA powder/crystals. Ecstacy is a slang term for MDMA pills, used originally for pure MDMA pills but now it usually refers to any pill sold as MDMA, often containing things other than MDMA. There are a few slang terms for MDA: eve, mad, ect and it probably is refered to as molly by some people. Ecstacy/MDMA is not methamphetamines though, and I don't think anyone uses the term ecstacy for meth.
     
  6. Mayaxx

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    ^^ what he said..

    And I dont know about usa, but Molly isnt that hard to find online.
     
  7. Gsmall

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    uhm yea actualy mdma is a methamphetamine :D - MDMA=Methylenedioxy-methamphetamine
     
  8. Stiney

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    Just because they have similar names does not mean they are they same thing. MDMA is structurally similar to methamphetamine, hence the name, but similar does not mean identical. They have massively different dosages, effects, tastes, durations ect ect ect. Just like a lion is not the same thing as a tiger, a chipmonk is not the same thing as a monk and a kitchen table is not the same thing as a garden shed. Mdma and methamphetamine are both phenethylamines but MDMA is not a methamphetamine.
     
  9. NeuroDr

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    i never said they did the same thing...they are both methamphetamine...are u serious? chipmunk argument...hahaha...they are related...it is the same family as (meth)amphetamine....so yea, i never said they were the same...but it is a methamphetamine....learn some chem...MDMA is a methamphetamine...thats y its in the name...lol...
     
  10. callinghome

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    To be honest, I never consider anything in a pill form to be pure MDMA. The only time it'd truly be pure is if it's in a capsule.
    And how hard is that to find?
    Totally depends on where you live & who you know.
     
  11. Stiney

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    (learn some chem? are you trying to be ironic or something?)

    Methamphetamine is not the chemical group, the only things that are methamphetamines are methamphetamines, of which MDMA is not one. This isn't a perfect explanation but I think it's a good analogy for you to understand. What you are saying is like saying a whiskey is a vodka. One is not a type of the other, they are both types of something else. Whiskey is not a vodka, vodka is not a type of whiskey, whiskey and vodka are both alcoholic drinks. Methamphetamines is not an MDMA, MDMA is not a type of methamphetamines, they are both phenethylamines.
     
  12. NeuroDr

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    they both share the same chemical backbone...methamphetamine....the only difference is methylenedioxy- to the ecstasy molecule...so yes, all forms of ethanol get u drunk...does it matter if u drink vodka or whiskey, its the same drunk....so thats a bad comparison....im still not saying MDMA and methamphetamine are the same chemical...but the ONLY difference is methylenedioxy....MDMA is a methamphetamine analogue....methamphetamine is an amphetamine...look at the chemical structures...they're exactly the same, except for MD...but w/e lol fuck it...i dont do ex so idk how easy it is to find pure....i wouldn't really trust anyone tellin me its pure unless i knew who made it...seems like ppl find a way to cut everything nowadays
     
  13. chugtonio

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    Jesus christ...
    you can't call ecstasy 'A' methamphetamine
    you add one more hydrogen atom to something and it could be a completely different molecule with completely different effects

    There is nothing to argue about
    It obviously is related to meth in that it is a stimulant with euphoric and energized effects but unlike meth, which unloads your dopamine, ecstasy rushes your brain with serotonin

    I like to think of ecstasy as a weed high were you are at your happiest moment, but constantly like that
     
  14. NeuroDr

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    ...but does MDMA trigger methamphetamine on drug tests? i think so...
     
  15. Stiney

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    Listen bud you obviously think you know what you are talking about, but you don't, we all know MDMA tests positive for meth, do you know how a urinalysis test works? Do you know what they actually test for, or why MDMA will set off a positive fro mehtamphetamines, because if you do then you surely must know that MDMA is not a methamphetamine, for all the reasons that have been posted, and of course the fact that its not.
     
  16. NeuroDr

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    http://www.aapspharmsci.org/view.asp?art=aapsj080238

    its not a methamphetamine? its a methamphetamine derivative....its based off the same amphetamine-->methamphetamine backbone...please give some facts b/c maybe i dont understand ur argument....if ur arguing that MDMA is not a methamphetamine derivative and that it does not share the same METHAMPHETAMINE backbone and doesn't trigger meth on drug tests due to its same chemical family of methamphetamines please give me some info....im not bein a dick or anything, but explain what u mean please...im not saying they are the same drug at all

    and chugtonio....mdma and meth both effect the dopamine and 5HT pathway
     
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    3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine is a substituted (meth)amphetamine just as 4-chloro-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine (DOC) is a substituted amphetamine. Same concept.

    Chemistry is fun.
     
  18. rollontheground

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    someone rembered the 3,4- took a while...........but what the fuck does all the number in front of the chemical names mean?
     
  19. Mayaxx

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    pure mdma isnt that hard to get a hold of, depends on the people you know i guess, but there are plenty of pure molly sources around online.. If you're asking if its hard to get a hold of a pressed ecstasy pill with pure mdma, then I'd have to say yes.. people fill their pills with alot of shit.. thats why i only sell mdma in capsules.
     
  20. NeuroDr

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    the 3,4 is the number of the carbons the methylenedioxy is attached to
     

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