doctor givin drugs to children for ADHD why?

Discussion in 'Conspiracy' started by bobbi21, Mar 4, 2008.

  1. zilla939

    zilla939 Thought Police Lifetime Supporter

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    yeah, the grades weren't worth it. i just ended up quitting the gov drugs and smoking a lot of weed. now i'm a lot more creative and happy and my consciousness has evolved a lot. even if i am at community college :)
     
  2. flytothe_sky

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    i swear, it's like half the people i know have been diagnosed with ADD or ADHD.
     
  3. bobbi21

    bobbi21 Member

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    + anti-depression meds have been proven to make people have more suicidal thougts on them then off, i just don't get it why would they dish them out like they are sweets. exercise and a more active life would do a world of difference.
     
  4. gaiabee

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    There is such thing as ADHD - it's pretty obvious when a person REALLY has it - but I agree it's over-diagnosed and medication should always be the last resort; unfortunately, it's almost always the first (and often only) solution suggested and parent's are often pressured by the medical community and school system to medicate their children.

    Anti-depressants are also over-prescribed. They dish them out like sweets because it's easier for doctors and patients to give/take a pill rather than make changes in their life/behavior. You can't just blame doctors... most patients would MUCH rather take a pill then go out and exercise (which has been proven to be just as, if not more effective).
     
  5. antpro2005

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    I'm going to school atm to be a nurse practitioner.... ADHD is real, but yes it is over diagnosed, but in children that really do have it certain drugs work really well. I personally hate all the adhd medication except adderall, but really for some of these kids it lets them grow up to be a whole bunch smarter and be more clear in their self expression.
     
  6. moop

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    i was put on dexedrine in 4th-6th grade for add, i developed horrible ticks after a year, i would blink like a fuckin maniac, i couldnt just blink, i had to squeeze my eyelids together tightly for a second or two every 15 seconds. i ate like a meal a day, usually some sugary snack or something, developed horrible insomnia that lasted all the way through high school. made me feel really awkward around people, i hated being around people i hated school, i had 1 friend who live 40+ miles away from me. they kept me on it for two years after developing all these symptoms. being the sheltered little church boy i was ididnt resist, i thought all medicine was top of the line shit. i didnt even relize how much it fucked me up untill years after i was off of it. that shit does turn you into a drone. im almost 20 and im still a drone. completley unenthusiastic about everything. i barley show any expression when something good or bad happens unless im drunk. up untill a few years ago i would have made a perfect government pawn, sheltered, religous, patriotic, no friends, to many action movies/ violent video games, completely drugged out. thank god i realized that pretty much everything anyone ever taught me up to that point was a lie and i changed my act. fuck those assholes who put me on that shit i wish i could sue the shit out of them.
     
  7. honeyhannah

    honeyhannah herbuhslovuh

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    Children should not be on any drugs of any sort. Children do not need harmful chemicals in their bodies, nor do they need candy, nor do they need school, but when you put a child that eats sugar for breakfast, in a classroom full of other kids where they have to sit still and do work that doesn't relate to the world they're living in, and then subject them to tests and rules and criticisms, and the pressure to be "normal" and have certain grades and revolve their lives around this controlling institution, well, if there's a child that doesn't fit into this very unyeilding, strict system it might seem as if they need something to make them fit, quietly and obediently into it, when in fact the system itself needs to be destroyed. Instead the children are being destroyed. And they are further exploited into adulthood with college, graduate school and the workforce... shame, shame.


















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  8. XBloodyNailPolishX

    XBloodyNailPolishX Forgetful Philosopher

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    Wow; said amazingly! Exactly! Agreed; the public school system is a joke... let kids be kids; they're still growing up.
     
  9. moop

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    heres an idea, why dont people start taking responsibility as a kids parent to be there teacher, what kind of role model are you when your kid comes home from school after being told hes gonna need this schooling for the rest of his life and then seeing his dad and mom droned out to a television.
    the whole world just needs to lighten up, get healthy, get some hobbies and then we'll all be teachers and students of each other
     
  10. XBloodyNailPolishX

    XBloodyNailPolishX Forgetful Philosopher

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    *gasp* take responsibility? Be a role model? Be a parent? get healthy? a lot of parents can't even fathom turning away from their precious TV for one moment.
     
  11. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Concerta was pretty horrible for me.

    I developed cravings for smoking cigarettes when I was on it. I'd be eating food and craving a cigarette somehow and still today, if I take a high dose of ritalin, every now and again I crave a cig.

    It built up for me over time. Eventually my liver wasn't breaking down the enzymes of the slow-release drug fast enough - and the concerta was building up in my system.

    I ended up speaking with an ADD Adult Specialist, who recommended that I go off concerta, off the slow-release stuff, and make sure that I take less medication for when I only need to use it.

    It did the opposite for me though, in regards to depression. I'm less emotionally frustrated with myself when I'm on medication and I tend to speak my mind a little more and put myself out there.
     
  12. honeyhannah

    honeyhannah herbuhslovuh

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    This is happenining, but usually these parent's are looked at as controlling, overprotective, weird... however, people will come around to seeing the truth if we all hold on to our values and don't apologize for it.
     
  13. gaiabee

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    I agree that parents should take responsibility and all that... but I'm assuming you were raised in at *least* a middle-income family because I don't think you realize that there are many parents (or PARENT - since many are single parents) who don't even have the luxury to sit down and watch TV. They work. A LOT. I'm not arguing for medication, believe me, I'm NOT... but to make a sweeping statement like that, just kinda indicates that you don't really understand what a lot of families go through.
     
  14. Pellinore

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    My brother got diagnosed for ASS today, and he also has to take relatine now just because his damn school results have been dropping.
    I mean, where is this society going?
    I believe that relatine increases the performance of the right side of the brain, but this goes at great costs for the left side. While prestations is mostly all about the right side ..people seem to have forgot that the developping of personality and looking for answers in this world is way more important then hard working and prestations.
    This world would be so much a better place if people would just slow down their pace and stand still for a moment.
     
  15. vsergio

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    this is the chemical formula for cocain:
    methyl (1R,2R,3S,5S)-3- (benzoyloxy)-8-methyl-8-azabicyclo[3.2.1] octane-2-carboxylate

    this is the chemical formula for ritalin (a comon stimulant prescribed for adhd)
    Methyl 2-phenyl-2-(2-piperidyl)acetate

    you will notice that they are not the same.(duh!) and therefore they affect the brain in diffrent ways. to say that medication for adhd is the same as cocain is absolutely positively WRONG.
    to say that adhd does not exist shows that the government has little to do with the stupidity of the population, allow me to elaborate:
    there have been many, many, many (i could keep going but u get the point), SCIENTIFIC, studies that show adhd is a physical illness that affects the the frontal lobe, its connections to the basal ganglia, and their relationship to the central aspects of the cerebellum.

    so next time, before you make yourself sound like an idiot who doesnt know what hes talking about, do a little research before you wave the "blame the government" flag, okay??
     
  16. FinnishButterfly

    FinnishButterfly JennyJelly

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    I tutored kids with ADHD for a couple of years. We didn't give them Ritalin. But we did give them Omega 3 Oils to help their concentration, and St Johns Wort. (Sp?) But in any case, the kids who had taken Ritalin had the actions of zombies. :-/ Other than that, we had a lot less problems with kids spacing out in class from the Omega 3 & St Johns, and a lot less objects were thrown at me.
     

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