Hypnagogia becoming OBE's now

So the past 2 nights I've been having hardcore hypanagogic episodes. Basically it happens like this: I start to enter the WST (wakefulness-sleep transition) and it all begins. INTENSE physical pressure and hallucinations. Freaky sensations with an overwhelming accompaniment of fear. Occasionally auditory hallucinations and usually some form of non-obvious visual hallucinations. My muscles (ALL of them, even my skin does it) contract very tightly and my entire body feels like it has pins and needles x100. Like a salvia body load but much, much stronger.

It's a very intense state. Usually it lasts for 20-30 seconds before I can fight my way back out. For some reason whenever it happens I will immediately begin fighting it, almost as soon as it starts. I have this urge to get out. I think it's immensely interesting but when it starts this fear comes out of nowhere and I begin to fight it as much as possible with my 98% paralyzed body. Can't even yell, or scream, or do much of anything. I can move a bit more then I used to be able to in this state, but I doubt that will become anything.

After the initial 20-30 seconds, I return to normal (with a few seconds of the effects falling away) and I just lay there in a half-ass conscious state. Realizing what just happened but too tried and apathetic to move. in no more than 15-20 seconds it starts again. Except the past 2 nights it's been happening upwards of 10 times as opposed to the 5 or 6 it usually dose.

Well...

Last night, the final time it happened I managed to fall out of my body and onto the floor. At this point everything got worse. My muscles started to clench even harder (in a response to fear?) and I started shaking like I might start having a seizure (I was honestly afraid of a seizure just randomly starting). So I concentrated all my energy on breathing deeply and slowly and I could manage to do it somewhat successfully. Usually I can hardly breathe at all.

So anyway I was shaking violently and trying to yell only to get some yelps out here and there. I was afraid, but I knew it wouldn't be long. When I came to I was back on the couch, under my blanket, damp with sweat. It took me a few seconds to realize that I hadn't actually fallen off the couch, but that I had just had my second or third accidental OBE. I calmed down, excited to tell you people and some other friends and get some input on this. After that I went right to sleep.

 

Fascinating...

Sometimes there are a lot of us, who don't exactly "fit in" with the physical world... and subconciously we tend to "sneak" back to the spirit side. Just a thought, doesn't mean I'm right.

 

damn dude, i didnt read that shit, but i am going to after i post this.

hypnagogic? what is that shit dude, ive seen some random images between going to sleep, like mountain dew cans, cartoon characters or some shit. and sleep paralysis, what does it have to do in relation to those?

nopw that i read that damn obes? haha i dont believe ive experienced shit like that.

ive had dreams i ripped from my body and floated round my house and neighborhood but thats just dreams, and the situations was like not what real life was, liek it'd be daytime and family is watching shows, but in real life their asleep at like 3 in the morn.

 

ive had something very similar happen to me and its wierd that u said something, there was a period maybe 3 years ago, maybe 2, but something like that would happen. i would be awake, and know i was awake, but my whole body felt paralyzed, i tried to yell for my sister but my words came out distorted and slurred and i could barely manage and noise.i felt like someone was standing right beside my bed, like i was being watched and there was an overwhelming sense of fear, i eventually fought it off, but like u said, if i started to go back to sleep and started thinkin about whatever i was before that happened, i would slip right back into it. it actually resulted in me staying up after that for 1-2 hours before going back to sleep, like wakin up from a horrible dream.

 

well i think i had an OBE once when i was tripping. i had just gotten home from a ratgod show (like 4 or 5 months ago) and i had taken only one single hit of acid, being experienced with acid i figured id have a little body high maybe some trails. when i got home i went to my room and layed on my bed, it was cool cuz its a water bed and it was fun. i lay there on my stomach feeling the warmth from the bed and then my entired body ached as if i was just hit by a truck. then all of the sudden i spiraled into my own reality, not the real one though. I was a little me, inside my head, crawling on my brain. its pulseing and i see like blue lighting arching evertwhere, then i tear open a hole in my brain and then i jump into it, now im free falling though my brain, everything is a purple tint and all of my thoughts are zooming up passed me relatively speaking, i guesss they were probably stationary, i was falling. then WAM!!!! im back on my bed. CRAZY.
and i think i know what ur talking about

 

dude i have had that happen to me before, its like your stuck in a sleep/awake state where your body is asleep but you can see. when it happens to me i can move around a bit but its very hard, i also noticed i cant think very clearly. when it happens i fight it and i usually wake up but its so weird i try to go to sleep immediately and try to experience it again. if it ever happens to you try to go back to sleep and see if it happens again. for me it usually does. its cool.

 

Um...I don't know exactly what it is...it's usually strange to talk about, and maybe it is a different experience from what you are talking about...but...
since I was about 4 years old, I occasionally would be asleep, and, in the middle of a dream(my dreams are full of color/lucid) I would all of a sudden Realize something was OFF. My child-mind would feel that there was another thing, a Demon was what I thought it was, in the room with me (like, in my dream THAT I STILL REMEMBER 20 YEARS LATER, I was in my kitchen, my parents in their bedroom, and I was facing the darkened dining room and in the dining room was a strange thing. Like, I COULDN't SEE IT but it was horrible. I couldn't move, I coudn't breathe, I couldn't cry out to my parents, time Stopped.)
So, (sorry this is long but it is the strangest thing that has happened to me.)
This has happened a few times in my life. I will be dreaming and then everything changes, I KNOW it is there and that it is happening. Like something is trying to get in at me through my dream, or some other weird thing. Time, Stops. You can feel it in the dream. You Know that the other people can't even tell this is going on. You cannot talk to them. You cannot move. You can barely breathe.
The last time this REALLY happened to me, I didn't even have time to realize I had fallen asleep. I had just laid down. A crushing weight was on my body, pushing me into the mattress, SMOthering me. I knew what it was. I fought, but I couldn't really move. I struggled, barely able to get up out of bed. When I did, I was thrown to the floor. I was about to be thrown head-first into the dresser with a very strong force.
Then I woke up. For those of you reading this, who have never had this kind of experience, I know it sounds very crazy.
Usually it doesn't have the stuff happen. I didn't like it. It has happened only a handful of times in my life. It is very deep. Just you, a deep Bad force and with hope, a Deep Good force will help you escape from it. There is one other experience I have had, but I can't say if it was real or a dream. Same stuff, just different.
Sorry to say such weird things.

 

This is Astral Travel that you are experiencing.

Everyone Astral Travel's when they sleep, dreams are just pieces of memory left over.

I no longer dream, instead I am fully aware of my Astral Travel and can remember 100%. It is fascinating.

 

I've read R. Monroe & S. Muldoon, some other authors, but I failed to experience O. B.E.. I did all those exercises, nothing worked out. I would go to sleep thinking about it, so I sometimes realized in the middle of a dream that I wanted to fly.. But I only felt as if the wind was blowing towards me.. As i I was flying. And nothing like Monroe had described, unfortunately.

 

This has happened to me before three times, all in Sedona, AZ. The first I became conscious during sleep that my body was sleeping. I had the idea to meditate in that state, and the next thing I knew I was hurled into a tunnel-esque place violently with the sound of thunder and powerful tearing of something all around. I fought hard to move or to get out, and slowly I came back into waking state consciousness.

In the second I awoke to the sensation (couldn't tell if it was real or not because I couldn't move) that someone was sitting on the bed next to me and pulling at the covers near my leg. Again, I became fearful and tried to fight my way back into control of my body and against whatever perceived entity was causing it.

In the third (the night after the second, same bed) I came into that state of consciousness without body control and simply told/mentally yelled whatever was causing it that they could do whatever to my body, but that my body wasn't me, and they would never take my mind. Instantly "it" was gone and I had absolutely no fear. Nothing returned for the rest of my stay (another 5 or 6 nights)

Take that for what it's worth, but if you confront your fears head on, they cease to be scary.

 

perhaps we're surrounded by spiritually predatorial forces on a daily basis, we being spiritual sheep, so to speak. maybe they don't like it when we get out of our pens.

 

ok people. most of you are looking at this experience completely the wrong way. you spend every ounce of energy trying to fight what you think may be demons or an evil entity. first of all, in my many experiences with hypnagogia, i always tried to fight the thunderous sound that seemed to explode from my head after i tried to fight the paralysis that ensared my entire body. but one night, i woke up and found myself in the same situation of sleep paralysis, i knew that the explosion of sound was gonna happen again. i didn't brace myself for it, i didn't fight the urge to try and move my body against the paralysis or yell and scream. i let it take me. the thunderous noise in my head spread to my entire body and i felt like i was thrust upwards going a thousand mph. i closed my eyes tight from the strain and i saw stars and bright colors zooming by. i opened my eyes and saw architectural structures that i couldn't have even begun to fathom. twisted arches with engravings, voices, pictures, art, life, death, heaven, and hell. stop fighting it and let it take you. relax. i found the whole experience extremely enlightening (what i can remember of it, it was fuzzy after trying to remember). but some points are entirely vivid. overcome your fear. we fear what we don't understand. get over it, and learn from this experience. it's life changing!

good day~

 

i agree that being fearful and struggling doesn't help. the few times i let go of all of that, i began to float out of my body. one time i got out through fear, but i just kept bouncing around my room with no control. so do you believe that the feeling of something in the room is manufactured? i do have to disagree with you there, but i suppose it doesn't have to mean that we disagree on how to deal with the problem.

 

i believe that what you ARE feeling in the room has nothing to do with "spiritually predatorial forces". we have the potential of using 100% of our brain power, and yet we are using roughly 10%. i believe that through a hypnagogic experience, we are unlocking some of our potential. the thunderous noise could be our minds breaking down the mental barriers we have set subconciously, and the feeling of something else in the room could be (by theory) your past life, coming into contact with the supreme being, memories thousands of years old. there's no telling what it is yet. i havn't personally felt another presence in the room probly because i was flashing through an unexplainable experience. i felt no sense of time, place, or velocity. one thing i can say though: i felt no malicious presence.....anywhere. i think fear is a poison in the mind that dulls the perception. fear is what caused the salem witch trials, and led to the deaths of hundreds of innocents. fear is what caused the crucifixion of thousands upon thousands of people. fear is the most potent of all poisons. let it go.

 

i can choose not to fear a police officer, or a weapon, or a clown-but that doesn't change my belief that it is there. my beliefs about this aren't based in fear, they're based on my experiences. once the fear passes, i open up to the experience, float, etc, but the presence is still there. it may be a part of me in the same sense that you are, but i don't feel that it is a part of my mind.

 

OP, it sounds like you ARE having seizures. Some people only have them when they're sleeping or trying to sleep.

Hope my reply is not too redundant... I just read the first post, now I need to go read all the rest of the thread. LOL

edit - wow, I'm a novice when it comes to this stuff. WTF do I know... I know nothing!

 

Hmm... OK... Based on odd experiences of my own, I've done a little research. The info I found may not be new to you, but it's new to me... and may help others understand: http://www.geocities.com/soho/gallery/3549/pa_sp3.html

Also, how about them psychic skillz? http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2320/is_2_66/ai_90532944/pg_10

(My own sparse experience with 'hypnopompic' hallucinations is in another thread, click).