is God Still Dead?

Discussion in 'Existentialism' started by Art Delfo, May 6, 2006.

  1. Elijah

    Elijah Member

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    that's because people who think too much tend to drive themselves insane.




     
  2. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Or insanity tends to drive people to think too much.
     
  3. Razorofoccam

    Razorofoccam Banned

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    Elijah

    Only if they emotionally commit to what they are thinking about.
    Thus we get suicide bombers. Evangelists and crazies from montana.

    I hold to the belief that nothing i think means anything
    unless i think it 3 times.
    And when im drinking counts only a half a thought...lol

    Occam
     
  4. Razorofoccam

    Razorofoccam Banned

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    Obie

    No.. reality does.
    And look at the human world reality has driven us to create.
    A disaster. Cause humans are really stupid.

    Occam
     
  5. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    What's reality? In order to say that reality leads you to insanity, you first have to know what reality is, and that would be a bold statement to make. Even if you do know what reality is, you can still place a negative or positive value to it.

    If reality is all in interpretation, then we really don't know anything. Knowing nothing doesn't necessarily mean that nothing exists.

    Over-thinking is a type of neurosis: http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1O87-hyperreflection.html
     
  6. themnax

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    i don't quite see how, anything that can be defined as either living or dead, can be defined as a god. but then maybe that's just my way of looking at things.

    nietzie's pronouncement i think, was, if anything, a bit rash and premature, though perhapse also, in some sense well intended.

    certainly the day when organized belief is no longer the over riding factor in one or more culture's shaired values, is not inconceivable. perhapse he was living in a time and place where real spirituality had died, and only hollow pretentious dogma had taken its place. that is the guess i would hazard as the basis for his having said what he did.

    certainly imposed arbitraryness HAS usurped any sort of real personal spiritual experience in many religeous contexts, and does indeed continue to do so.

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  7. Razorofoccam

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    Zep

    Your def pls

    Occam

    [themnax FUCK, 9000 posts..If they were atoms
    still would not be visable... lol :),, luv u 'Captain,my Captain']
     
  8. vsergio

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    YEAH THAT NIGGUH IS STILL DEAD, and he says he'll be back but were still waiting.............................................

    how long has it been now, 2000 years!
     
  9. Passionate1

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    no he lives in all of us from the men who opens the doors for women to the people who donate and the soldiers who believe they are frighting a honst war.....
     
  10. Razorofoccam

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    Passionate

    The truest thing i;ve heard on this forum in quite a while.
     
  11. Passionate1

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    Thank you
     
  12. Bl4ck3n3D

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    Energy is neither created nor destroyed, so how can god die?
     
  13. WhisperingWoods

    WhisperingWoods too far gone

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    You're making an assumption about the nature of a deity, firstly. How do you know that said deity is composed of "energy"?

    Secondly, energy changes forms. When a cat dies and sits aroung long enough, it is consumed by other organisms and becomes dirt. That cat was full of energy in cat form, and now the dirt/decomposers/plant life get to share it! So, hypothetically, if a deity was made of energy, and could cease to be a deity (ie: die), wouldn't the energy just move on into another form, possibly another deity or any possible manifestation of matter/energy?

    Ideas?
     
  14. Bl4ck3n3D

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    The Universe wouldn't exist as God is everyone, and everything. There is no deity.

    The Universe is nothing more than cycles and change, death is an illusion.
     
  15. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    God is dead. - Nitzsche
    Nitzsche is dead. - God
     
  16. Razorofoccam

    Razorofoccam Banned

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    The real question is. Can a diety exist before existance.

    No.. Thus, as i believe this universe is directed.
    I must explain how.

    1. The universe is but a facet of reality..
    2. Reality has always existed.

    This contradicts no theory or evidence
    And cannot be contradicted.

    Occam
     
  17. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Au contraire!
    First you don’t define your terms, such as how do you define reality?

    Next, you make statements without support, such as; I believe this universe is directed, and then use the unsupported statement; The universe is but a facet of reality, to back it up.

    Thus as they say; your post doesn’t hold water!
     
  18. def zeppelin

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    Zep, your def pls? Sorry, I don't know what you mean by that. :x

    "Can a diety exist before existance."

    I don't know.

    "The universe is but a facet of reality.. "

    I think that I know what you mean, but I am not sure. Is there somehow a beyond reality? Incomprehensible, I know, but truth doesn't rely on our understanding of it... or does it?

    "Reality has always existed."

    I don't know. Again, incomprehensible to think otherwise.
     
  19. Razorofoccam

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    Zep
    Your def is.. your definition.

    A facet of reality is not 'beyond'
    Is the facet of a diamond 'beyond' the diamond? No
    Entirely comprehensible.

    Truth.. Is what IS. If we are here to perceive it or not.

    Exactly .. how can one think of no reality... Not possible.

    Occam
     
  20. Razorofoccam

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    Brother

    You cant define reality for yourself?
    LOL
    Reality is everything...ALL PHENOMENA IS REALITY

    No. I said the universe is a facet of reality. As a suburb is a facet of a city.
    DID NOT use this to support 'the universe is directed', dont misquote... 'brother'. [ and you have it backards and sideways]
    The facet called our universe shows miriad indicators to 'direction'
    I can give you 100 times the valid indicatiors than say, the 'bible' can.

    I dont need to 'back it up' Reality speaks for itself
    Or are not you listening. Or perceiving?

    Occam
     

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