Too much is too much.

To you and kinky ramona I'd recommend kundalini yoga, as a start... and if you'd like to have really spiritual, safe, amazing trips, do kundalini yoga while tripping.

 

Yeah, my old babysitter dropped acid and flipped out at one of his parties when someone played the song "I wanna be sedated" by the Ramones.

To this day, he can't listen to the song - it throws him into horrible flashbacks.

I hope your friend gets help, and I hope your friends stop doing that shit altogether.

 

The guy who grew up across the street from me got a drug induced schizophrenic type of ailment. He may have had something latent in his brain, they aren't sure.

He went to college and started taking tons of acid.

He went crazier and crazier, first walking around his neighborhood naked, then he was in a car with my friends going to their apartment and he kept saying over and over that he had to shit....they were like 5 minutes away from their place. As soon as they pulled up to their place he ran out and shit on their front porch.

Then he stole his girlfriends car and disappeared for months. Turns out he had been arrested for something around Atlanta, was found hiding in a broom closet in a truck stop, was put in jail and couldn't remember his name. He finally did and they flew him to his parents house, while on the plane he freaked out and was held down by like 5 people.

He never recovered, still lives with his parents and is so heavily medicated that he sleeps 20 hours a day, and he can't function at all.

I actually took acid with him my first time, before all of this.


Sorry about your friend Pavel, but he may not ever come back, hopefully he will.

 

I know 2 people who have never come back from their drug trips...One guy is totally psycho, he doesn't take care of himself, can get violent and hears voices and the like...I used to hang out with his cousin, so I know he used to be "normal" before all the drugs.

The other guy is just kind of simple. He went from being a top student with a bright future to having the mind of a 12 year old.

I have never done any hard drugs because I can't stand the thought of fucking up my brain or being addicted to anything. I'll just be high on life, thanks

 

That is really awful to hear. Some people cannot maintain though on a drug like LSD. A friend of mine was the same way, though he didn't have the extended issues. He did say though that tripping was the worst experience of his life because he couldn't control his thoughts. He said he couldn't hold the thoughts that he did have, and the entire time he just wished he could kill himself. He never did it again, though I am fairly certain he did have prior tendancies.

Give your friend some time and try hitting him up in a somewhat impersonal way. Like a myspace message or Christmas card etc. I think he will come around eventually and realize you guys weren't out to get him, though I would say that there probably was some permanent damage.

I'm still real sorry to hear that happened. It really is a shame and I know how bad it sucks losing friends.

 

Man, some crazy stories over here. Hearing that people know other people who went ape shit on acid does offer me some sort of comfort, I guess. I we got really really drunk this weekend and properly dealt with the issue. A lot of people have had a bad week, another friend had a laptop stolen and shit...

But yeah, my friend is still as crazy as ever. His brother says that his mom calls him crying twice a day. Pretty damn terrible.



On the other hand.....

You should try shrooms Kate (and others), they are extremely mild (in non-extreme amounts) in comparison to acid.

 

Have you seen your friend in these past two days? I'd recommend it.

I've certainly heard of people predisposed to mental illness have their symptoms become much more apparent on LSD. Keep in mind, which I'm sure you are, that theres no LSD left in his system.

So perhaps he had a traumatic hallucination, in which case discussing it might help. By hallucination I don't just mean visual hallucination, but also invasive thoughts (everyone hates me... I'm crazy.)

Perhaps his own worries of being crazy are actually a barrier to reflecting and moving past whatever happened in his head those few hours.

Thats just musing though, I don't know the guy. But I am sure he could use some friends. Don't rush him or anything, but if you have his number call him up, see if he wants to get some coffee.

Hope your friends alright.

 

He's away at his parents' house. Can't really be around him, and hell... he thinks I'm part of the conspiracy... he doesn't really want to be around me... so I ain't gonna force myself on him unless he happens to reach out. He needs someone neutral like a shrink to work things out for him right now... his emotions are pretty damn confused, so I think he's better off talking to someone he has no feelings for.

I do think that it's a traumatic hallucination, or something of the liking. Some friends are reckoning that it's schizophrenia, but I still hope that it's something temporary. Mothafucka is just really confused and terrified.

 

I guess i should say thank you for this thread.
I bought an 1/8 of some good shrooms the other week and was going to do them once the weather was better.
But now im scared. One time i had a mini thingy there that you described just from some weed. I smoked a shit load and kids were acting sketchy and shit and i had a really fucked up vivid dream the night before and then i thought it was all tied together and i was going crazy. Then a bunch of circumstances came up that made me convince myself that they were all going to kill me, even my parents were in on it. I seriously felt like i was some sort of genetic experiment gone wrong and the world had to get rid of me like i was a monster. It was a horrible feeling.

The next few days i didnt really talk to anyone i was freaked out.
But to this day i dont really trust anyone. Every situation im in i analyze every little detail how people are acting and talking. I usually feel like everyone is talking behind my back.

Even my best freind will call and tell me a story about someone. I cant be myself because i feel like im on speaker and everyone is on the other side listenign to what i have to say.

So yea, i think shrooms will wait.

 

If you go into a psychedelic trip with fear in your heart, you will hurt yourself, almost guaranteed. Anxiety and a slight fear of the unknown is natural, but if these sort of stories actually scare you, its probably better not to take the chemicals. You have to remember that many people have freaked out, but millions of people have eaten LSD over the past 60+ years and have had beautiful experiences. Not to mention that billions of people have eaten magic mushrooms, peyote, and the many DMT bearing plants over the course of human history, and many cultures to this day treat these plants and fungi as tools of God. The difference is that they take them around fires and in tents, praying and holding each other, rather than dosing around a television in a house, worrying about being crazy or being caught.
Namaste

 

Hannah do you practice any sadhana?