Just lost all support for kerry

I told ya so. I did. Nobody listens to me. I TOLD YOU!!!! LISTEN next time, bitches. :$

 

Haha, I wish you had found that article before we signed up..
They've emailed me!
Ah, well, I'm just going to 'un-volunteer' now.

 

So....are you training to become a priest?

I haven't like Kerry from the beginning, but I'd vote for him if I could, just because Nader has no chance and Bush needs to get out of office.

 

he would still make a better presedent then bush.

 

In your profile, it says you're a buddhist and you work for corrections. Dept. of corrections?

 

Is that so, bro?
How did this happen?
What religion are you an ordained minister for?

 

I wouldn't be so sure about that

 

He was probably referring to the Zogby Poll conducted in late August. It showed that half of New Yorkers believe that the government (George Bush in particular) had prior knowledge about 9/11 and intentionally did nothing to act.

I actually made a thread about it.

 

I find polls like that poll a bit funny. Americans are pretty stupid, and in this instance, it doesn't matter if they are smart because there was really no information from which they could verse. That's just a guessing game, and I think it's a pretty big waste of time to ask Mike the construction worker what he thinks of something about which he has no information whatsoever. Sometimes people in polls just talk out of their ass, and this is one of those polls.

I've already stated in here my opinion on why Kerry would be a good president, atleast in context to foreign policy, but you can make your own uninformed decision if you decide to vote. And yes, if you vote for Bush, it's invariably an uninformed decision. I also find it to be a total joke that a man who was favored through nepotism during Vietnam continuously questions the war record of a man who volunteered for service in the Navy in 1966, commandeered a swift-boat down the mekong delta for 3 years, and saved the life of two of his shipmates.

Upon the Bo De River on February 20th, 1969 (the source of Kerry's second purple heart), John Kerry comandeered one of three swift-boats that were supposed to be supported by air-support. The helicopters were attacked and the three boats were left to escape ambush on their own. During which unsupported escape, Kerry was hit by shrapnel from a rocket-propelled grenade. Where was George Dubya on this cold night? Oh, ofcourse! He was up to his nose in coke!

Kerry's silver star? It comes 8 days later on February 28th, 1969 upon the Bay Hap river. Another ambush (yes, this war was real battle). Kerry directs the boat to shore and attacks the enemy head on along with the PCF24 boat. During the ambush, a "teenaged" (later found to be a 21 year old Domi-Utang, as if the age matters) Vietnamese soldier jumped from the brush with a B-10 rocket launcher. When the weapon of one of his crewmates jammed, Kerry jumped to shore and killed the Vietnamese soldier. The accusation is that Kerry "chased down a wounded teenager and murdered him". Yes, he chased down an armed Vietnamese soldier and killed (this is war, and if you want to split-hairs on semantics, it's not murder) him, but if you're at all familiar with written "battle-conduct", you know you don't allow an armed enemy to "escape in the midst of battle". The terms "midst" and "battle" are used very specifically and not subject to interpretation. Sure, it would have been a war crime had he shot a surrendering Vietnamese soldier after a battle, but this soldier was neither surrendering, nor was the battle over. Where was George Dubya on this cold night? AWOL from his cushy position in the guard, and probably up to his nose in coke again.

Kerry's bronze star and third purple heart? They come on March 13th, 1969 upon the same - bay hap - river. During an attack by North Vietnamese snipers, a man on Kerry's boat named James Rassmann was accidently knocked overboard. He swam to the bottom of the river, according to his own account. Kerry (as were the rest of the PCF-24 boats) was given orders over radio transmission to retreat rather than to stay and fight. Rassmann accounts that he was about to make the decision to swim to shore and inevitably become a P.O.W., but Kerry, realizing one of his men was missing, lead the boat back into enemy fire to rescue Rassmann. This is where Kerry recieved a large shrapnel wound to the arm. Granted, Kerry disobeyed strict orders and put his subordinates in danger in going back to save Rassmann, but his actions were judged by Admiral Zumwalt to be justified, and therefore he was not put through court marshall. Rassmann put in a request for Kerry's being awarded a bronze star for saving his life in battle, which, obviously was accepted. Again I ask, where was George Dubya? Up to his nose in coke, finding something better to do than to show up for National Guard duty.

Now does any of this prove that John Kerry would be an over-all better president? No, but that was not my point with all this. You're smart enough to come up with your own decision on that. My point is, George Dubya is opening up a can of worms that he has not the warrant to be opening.

Kerry did not go to war for political purposes, and if he had, I think he proved that he was very commited to the idea of furthering his career. So much so that he would volunteer for service in the PCF, one of the most dangerous jobs of the war. 15 of the Swift Boat Veterans for Propaganda weren't even on the boat with Kerry. Only one ever served under Kerry in the war, and he even later admitted that his argument was a moot point. That being that Kerry disobeyed strict orders while on the Vietcong Delta. By saying that they served with John Kerry, they could use a semantics argument and act as though they knew at all what Kerry was doing at the time of the war.

Americans need to wake up and stop believing that what they see on a television commerical warrants them saying they're "versed" on the whole situation. Ofcourse 2 of Kerry's wounds for which he was awarded a medal were fairly superficial. Thousands of purple hearts were awarded for the same type of wound. People like Michael Savage know that their fans have no clue as to what is the requirement for attaining a medal, and know that therefore they can say basically anything they want on their programs, so long as they continue to have a target demographic of blue-collar Jims, Johns and Jacks.

I wish someone could give me an example of how Dubya helped this country in any way or another. Our economy is in shambles, with a good 1,000,000 jobs having been lost. We now occupy a country, just like Vietnam, in which we're fighting guerillas. Our "safe zone" is now one of the most dangerous areas in Iraq. Does that ring a bell? How about Saigon? "Oh yes Mr.Nixon, it's a safe zone". We were destroyed in Saigon by guerilla forces. "Elections will be held in 2004 when we assure the American people, operations will have ceased.". Well, it's elections time in Iraq, and nothing has ceased, no mission "accomplished". If you consider a strong influx of guerilla forces causing an average, almost daily American death rate an accomplished mission, I want the drugs you're hoarding! George Bush talks about what problems he'll fix in Iraq over the next 4 years as if his first term of presidency was some kind of prerequisite for the second. It doesn't work that way. You prove something your first 4 years or you're thrown out. And Bush hasn't and doesn't at all consider domestic policy (you know, us the Americans??) an issue anymore, apparently. It's 9/11 this, Iraq that, while his domestic policy circles down into the toilet. Simply put, George Bush has nothing to show for his first 4 years, and has no reason to be put into office again.

Make your own decision.

 

Oh, I wasn't talking to you in specific.

 

Actually, nevermind. It looks as if neither Kerry or Nader has a chance, and I'm not going to turn my back on the man. Ralph in 2008!

Fuck Kerry. Fuck Bush more, but still, fuck Kerry. We are fucked either way, moreso if Dubya wins, but thats what it looks like is going to happen from the latest polls.

 

The polls are always "potential" voters. They don't mean shit. In 2000 they showed in mid-October, Bush up by 13% over Al Gore. Al Gore won the popular vote in November none-the-less. Polls mean nothing.

 

I hate Kerry and Bush. Badnarik should be the next president! Being realistic though, Kerry and Bush are the only two with a chance in November. I don't like to pick between two evils, but getting Bush out of office WOULD be a step in the right direction. Honestly, I think four more years of Bush would fuck things up more than four years of Kerry. Maybe by 2008 people will come around and start to actually care. I had someone ask me a few weeks ago if the elections were this year... and who was running! :$ I believe most people think America would be fine if it were ran by Bush for the next 100 years!

 

::raises hand:: Let's see... I'll move to Oregon, get in trouble, come find you, and get married... but... is it like a mixed gender thing. Well, in that case I could like... become somone's bitch in Massachusetts or something... and then you could transfer to there or something... I dunno.

 

Nice signature there Orsino. That's basically how I feel about politics. I'm an independent, and I'll support the lesser of two evils, but I don't believe there's an honest politician alive, and not worth supporting any further than my vote.

 

I think that all of you need to put the keyboard away while smoking, Kerry is gay, a Bill Clinton waana be. We have over twenty nations with nuclear programs and I'd like to see anyone go into there country and take them. Get ready for world war three. I hate religion bashers because they are so uneducated. The war in the middle east is over religion, It's easy to bash a religion but , look at the real problem, "It's human nature to hate anyone that isnt like us" thats not a religious point of view, get off of it you weak minded George Carlin lover. Get educated Religion is what motivates this world and has since the dawns of time.

 

You need to educate yourself on Geopolitics. This isn't about religion. The Palestinian Israeli conflict is about religion. The mujahideen soldiers (you know, the one's that capitalist America helped fight the Soviet Army in the '80s) and the extremists hate us not because we're predominately Christian, but because we're "decadent, selfish, capitalist pigs.".

 

read a few more books fag!

 

Fag is a degradation of the homosexual population. Don't go down that road.

"Read some more books, fag". Okay, this implies that you have some hidden knowledge I don't have. Instead of putting out a one liner, why don't you refute what I said with your wealth of knowledge? Let's hear the argument.

 

whatever.



SOMEONE ELSE FOR PRESIDENT!