No Country for Old Men

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by warmhandedcanadian, Apr 11, 2008.

  1. warmhandedcanadian

    warmhandedcanadian shit storm chaser

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    Ok what just happened?
     
  2. sheeprooter

    sheeprooter Member

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    The Coen Brothers made a handful of original, smart, well-crafted, commendable films that were generally well-received and developed cult followings. Then they made "No Country for Old Men", a heavy-handed, superficial, completely improbable attempt to achieve the sort of depth they had already achieved so many times before in the 90's without trying so hard.

    But to answer your question as to what happened - well, the demon killer gets away, presumably with the money. And the only authority figure chasing him - a dried up, jaded, elderly local sherif - retires. Lou Ellen Moss, the good guy, is mysteriously killed by a bunch of Mexicans ad his wife is killed as well because she won't play coin toss.

    God this movie was so frustrating on so many levels but I really won't go into it here unless we get a few people who start arguing about what a masterpiece it is.
     
  3. warmhandedcanadian

    warmhandedcanadian shit storm chaser

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    cool, thanks that's exactly what I thought. Although I liked some of the dialogue - immensely. :)
     
  4. AquaLight

    AquaLight Senior Member

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    A disappointment.
     
  5. Kinky Ramona

    Kinky Ramona Back by popular demand!

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    I liked it, but I think it's one of those movies you have to watch 6 billion times before you get it, lol. It freaked me out, that dude was some scary shit.
     
  6. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    You fuckers need to put spoiler warnings in the title of your thread. I wanted to see that and once again you ruined it. Now I won't be able to watch No Country For Old Men, Shrek 3 or The Return Of My Little Pony when they come out on video.
     
  7. Jaitaiyai

    Jaitaiyai Cianpo di tutti capi

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    there's a return of my little pony???!
     
  8. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    i've never understood how 'spoilers' spoil anything. if anything they save me wasting resources on crap i wouldn't have cared about anyway but would otherwise wasted on thing, gee that SOUNDS interesting.

    if a story is REALLY well crafted and interesting, knowing in advance what is going to happen at some point in it, even the ending, doesn't 'spoil' a damd thing. at least not for someone like me, who considers the scenery along the way the best part of any ride going anywhere.

    (ps: anything with "demons" in it, is dumb brainwashing horseshit. with the sole exception of a series of books called myth adventures, in which the demons were really dem ension travellers anyway, and sort of a parady sendup of the d&d roll playing universe)

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  9. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    If the movie had been GOOD and they posted how it ended I'd have really been upset. But since it's apparently not....
     
  10. LuckyStripe

    LuckyStripe Mundane.

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    I ate too many ativan when I watched that movie... my opinion is.... I don't have one.

    :confused:
     
  11. myself

    myself just me

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    I think you're right. Each of us has a different way of imagining the way a story goes according to it plot summary. It also depends on the way someone tells the plot summary.
     
  12. Allonym

    Allonym cheesecake slut

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    Llewellyn, not lou ellen..

    *spoiler below! oh wait you already know it from earlier*
    i actually really love that name. bout the only good that movie ever did, was remind me of how much i love that name
    yeah, it sucked. massively massively overrated. slow moving, boring, had potential til llewellyn died but then it just fell apart when he was killed. just poof suddenly hes dead. bah.
     
  13. AquaLight

    AquaLight Senior Member

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    I don't think the plot was that mysterious or had you do much thinking...They just didnt show us scenes that were expected to take place, and gave us no backgrounds on many characters if not all of them..
     
  14. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    i bet i'll like it.
     
  15. Gravity

    Gravity #winning

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    I don't think the guy that got "supposedly" shot by the Mexicans is dead.

    There is a sequal being made, and I bet anything he'll be back.
     
  16. Guitar

    Guitar Senior Member

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    Um Lewelyn died dude, didn't you see him dead on the floor at the hotel? No country is one of my favorite movies, it's made perfectly.
     
  17. warmhandedcanadian

    warmhandedcanadian shit storm chaser

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    I didnt think it was slow moving at all,, I felt naseaus and upset from the moment it started. I was a little scared and biting my fingernails. The guy was such a smooth psycho ...I liked that part, the end threw me off a little .My husband fell asleep and had not one to use as a sounding board.


    I saw him dead after I went back to that part, I thought he was a mexican laying there and he'd gotten away.

    The villian was an excellent actor IMO.
     
  18. neuroptican

    neuroptican ...hadouken!

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    I already posted about this in the Movie section. Here it is copy and pasted..


    SPOILERS, BEWARE!

    Here's my ideas about the movie that may help you appreciate it more. The movie represents the death of the cowboy and as a documentation of the absurd; thats why they do not show Llewelyns death, thats why Chigurgh lives. Llewelyn's death is supposed to be insignificant, since the death of the cowboy went unnoticed in our nation. Also, the Coens are only tricking the audience into believing the psycho killer finally gets whats coming to him in the car wreck, but ultimately he just walks away to what we assume is a clean getaway. That is an absurd concept in conventional storytelling.

    One thing I love about the concept of Chigurgh, is that he is like something straight out of an Albert Camus' novel. The absurdity in his actions, his morals and principles, his method of choosing his victims, etc. This flip of the coin manner in which Chigurgh chooses his actions, along with the lack of a soundtrack and the shots of the sprawling Texas hill country, injects a sense of dread and tension into the movie. The intensity of certain scenes derives from this unpredictability of many of the character's fates. To the Sheriff, Chigurgh's actions represent the absurdity the world is coming to, and it confuses and scares him. Eventually this brings him to his retirement, he can't handle it anymore... or No Country For Old Men.

    I absolutely love the ending, Tommy Lee Jones does an awesome job on the Sheriff's last scenes. Hell, I even have the last line of the movie in my signature. The second time I saw this, Sheriff Ed Tom Bell's line : "I always thought when I got older God would sort of come into my life in some way. And he didn't. I don't blame him. If I was him I'd have the same opinion about me that he does.", really helped me understand his last speech about his dreams better. The Sheriff concludes, "And in the dream I knew that he was goin' on ahead and he was fixin' to make a fire somewhere out there in all that dark and all that cold, and I knew that whenever I got there he would be there. And then I woke up."
     
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