God fucking damnit son of a bitch whada fucking surprise. I hope they at least nail the fucker who told me "They wont make them illegal so I will continue to advertise as MDMA, LSD, etc alternatives." Whats the fuckin world coming to when a TEENAGER understands the analog act better then the distributer? And murder and rape is still skyhigh right? Just making sure were cracking down on the right crimes here. EDIT: Shit I just remembered my friend who ordered from them... I gotta make some phone calls now
O my mother fucking god. i just got two bunk orders from those sites and then now there closed. i need too restock on everything, but im scared the ones that are still open (if there are any, i saw a few not mentioned) are not on like a watch shit or whatever, an they jus arrest you ass soon as it gets there. neobob-IM FUCKING MAD TOO! THIS ISN'T RIGHT but on the other hand i saw it comming, i been predicting this since february this year. now, BAM!! what about scheduling? these chemicals are all going to be emergency scheduled aren't they? just liuke MDMA and AMT and 5-MEO-DiPT. shulgin has talked of a new book of a new class of chemicals. i dont know. but, can they stop him from developing these new chemicals? new ones will be made right? and to everyone in high school or in a chemistry major in college, you know what you must do. rhodium can take some of these underground on the streets.
Yea we need smart scientists, who beleive in psychedelic use for spirituality and a good time. They're a dying breed, government is stamping them out.
The busts will not automatically schedule anything. But in a few months, the DEA will publish a notice in the federal Register, announcing it's intent to schedule substances x, y, and z, and allowing a period (90 days?) for public comment. Unless our side can provide valid (to the DEA) reasons against it, the substances will become illegal an additional 90 days? from that date. This should really OUTRAGE anyone who calls themselves a "conservative", as it represents a complete destruction of the separation of powers doctrine. The same gang of UNELECTED zealots is both writing the law AND enforcing it. Kinda works like Cheney's "energy task force", ya know? Expect the remaining sellers to rapidly hike prices to milk the maximum profit from the remaining product before it becomes illegal. Chemistry skills are great to have. A hands on knowledge of chemistry (and a basic set of glassware) comes in handy for all kinds of hobbies. Photography, soapmaking, homebrewing, making essential oils/herbal extracts, etc. Not to mention OTHER possible projects....
now, if it is a sting or whatever, what would happen if one placed an order? i meen, legally, you can own and buy the substances... so, if somebody ordered something, would they just tell you no or something?
They will likely file your name, and depending on how much you buy, possibly pay you a visit in a few months, once the compounds you order are scheduled...
I just remembered the way I found hipforums was I was googling for 5-MEO-MIPT and this came up. They opened your root midnightmoonlight? was it sassafras root or something?
do you think it's safe to order from american chemical supply? they are targeting the suppliers, not buyers, right???
Since they were taken down in this last bust and up like a week later... I would say hell no, I haven't heard of any buyers going down, but just wait, the DEA will get bored someday and prosecute every RC buyer they can.
Wait, I was under the impression that acs, though the site is up, was not in business. Can anyone confirm that they're shipping legitimate orders as of right now? Because in all honesty, I would risk "getting my name put on a list" to get some of what they're selling for what they're selling it for.
I'm in the same boat with Robo... This is insane. After this shit went down people were just sayin "Goodbye" and closing down left and right. I cant even find those sketchy sites anymore. They've all vanished! And I dont wanna stoop to ordering off of the site that sell legal psyilocibin -shudder-. YOU ALL KNOW WHAT SITE I MEAN! God but I'm out of options.... By the by. Since these chemicals arent schedualed yet and you order something and then its put on the list and they DO pay you a visit and your product is gone.... What then?
I can still find shady sites that are up, problem is deciding whether it's worth risking losing my money. And I have a friend who says he did recieve an order from acs, and this was only a couple weeks ago. I personally think he got the site name wrong, cuz he sounded unsure...but if you wanna risk it. I thought listing site names was a no no? I am new and all, but still. What I want to find is 5-meo-AMT, and any site that seems like it has a small chance of being legit doesn't carry it.
It's quite possible that ACS is still shipping orders. But the fact that they have been busted in a high-profile DEA undercover operation, and their site is still up and running (unlike the rest of the "web tryp" victims) should raise a HUGE FUCKING RED FLAG to anybody contemplating placing an order with them. Seriously, have people never heard terms like "sting operation", "honeypot", "entrapment", or "fishing expedition"? Just maybe the site's owners have struck a deal of some kind with the DEA, in exchange for leniency or immunity from prosecution? This kind of shit goes on all the time! The substances in question aren't technically illegal, YET. But if past cases are any indicator, they will be MADE ILLEGAL really soon. Do you REALLY want to willing give your name, credit card info, and address to whatever government spooks are currently running the site? Once they have you on record as purchasing one of these chemicals, what prevents them from paying you a visit once the chemicals are scheduled? Even if your purchase has already been used for "research" by that time, do you really want to be on the DEA's "potential druggie list" for the rest of your life? And yes, the posting of source names/addresses is normally prohibited here. An exception is being made for sites that are confirmed as busted, in order to get the information out to potential customers. Anybody who is stupid enough to do business with one of these sites probably deserves whatever happens to them....
ya, now i gots "the fear" well, back to ummmm "natural products" i suppose, eh? ~ (& how long until these fukn authoritarians start to go after our friendly herb vendors?????)
I was down right pissed when i heard about the RC bust, i've only done 2c-b once but boy it was really fun, 25mg, and i take this as basically i will never do another RC ever again in my life.
The DEA is already "reviewing" Salvia Divinorum, presumably with an eye to adding to the list of "illegal plant species". http://rense.com/general38/salv.htm