if you dont mind me talking about my fragmented lsd thoughts....

is it just me or after you have one of those super spiritual lsd experiences, pretty much the only thing you can do is try to work all of that into metaphor of your speech and life so you can then lure other people to the lsd. Like it quite literally is this thing in another dimension you always are describing to people in everything you do.

which I dunno it just occured to me on my last lsd go yesterday that seems odd cause then like, your essentially connecting yourself with this pure energetic form of your being that you wish to pull into existence by your will. Which is essentially like your conception of god. But can you really do that? Why do that?

I also realized that while of course, yes everyone can break it down to the clearlight and see the singular source of creation. There is going to probably be countless people who construct new concepts of the dietic form of this light and all we might end up with is still a number of buddhists and then a bunch of newage deitic concepts and forms, then people might actually start forgetting they are the same thing yet again.

It seems to be the common sense thing to maintain the clearlight, the singular source, the om. But is that even possible or even ideal? The whole 2012 wave seems to me to be the moment everyone realizes the singularity, by whatever that metaphor registers to you. The singularity of energies existence, or the self being, or even technological progress. Some closing point of oneness and realization. But I wonder, will that even do much at all? Are there really communities of people out there that can maintain belief of this concept? The whole law of one thing.

and am I the only one that seems to feel like something is gonna even happen soon? potentially around 2012. It just seems to me like something has to seriously break sometime in the near future with the current direction and rate of everything.

I mean what if 2012 just washes by as nothing more than an artistic movement surrounding the concept of the law of one and love, but then typical society still functions as normal and all we now have is a bunch of new community tribal-esque groups of people living on tracts of land, sort of like a wave of 60's communes but actually functional and sustainable. But still the same argument between we need money and we need to just have a good time is there.

another, highly askewed, fragmented lsd thought that my brain threw together is. First summer of love, 1967. Second summer of love, 1988. 21 years in between. Add 21 years to 1988 and you get 2009. Maybe the THIRD summer of love will be in 2009. And 2012 will just be like a super hippie acid wave, the rising political turmoil and the gradual climb in the interest of psychedellics all seem to be presenting a certain possibility there for something of that nature in recent years. But maybe Im just fantasizing.

I dunno my time on lsd yesterday was kind of like a demonic run through the typical young 20 year old life of try to impress the good cutesey girl with money and normal understandable behavior, maintain intellectual talk thats charted into the territories of the established university, dont be weird cause thats not right. Don't talk about us being out of our minds on lsd in public cause people might think were weird. Then no one but me thinking, but hey, whats the issue here? Its fun why are we trying to work the maze of the societal awkwardnes. Does anyone else even care that society is operating on a series of completely irrational abusrd ideologies that limit the mind unnecessarily. Just go crazy, be happy and your life will be fine. Or is that just a complete hair banging ideology.

 

You are connecting it to much with lsd. I understand why. That was just our way of discovering more. But people are getting more and more awake. Unbealivable but they are finding it out thru other resorces. When you implement everything lsd showed you on your life then it's not so difficult to go and talk to other people who haven't done lsd. You don't have to mention drug to change their perspective. You really don't have to be weird. All you have to do is awake them to find that energy and realize how their minds where controled with fear.
You don't really care how many different concepts there will be if they are all folowing the basic one Love. With it you can't go selfish and create an idol from yourself for others. Every person you see is like you see yourself. There are no idols. Understanding this shows you how we were programmed since our birth to belive in certain idols the ones who had no love for others in them and everything they wanted was power and greed ruled thru their actions.
I wouldn't connect anything to 2012. That is just another number for me. The new wave is created already. The change is already everywhere around you, me, everyone. I go to a medical lab and I take newsletter from that lab and I see an article inside talking about creating positive mental attitude. Think, 10 years ago could you find something like that in doctors office?

 

Lol you are going crazy, I'd give it a rest for a little while.

 

I have had a lot of these thoughts as well but many of them came from mushrooms..i only very recently tried lsd for the first time..i dont think you are crazy rygood a lot of people are having these same feelings..and sometimes it is just to hard to explain to someone these ideas when they havnt had a psychedelic experience..all there defenses are up and they cant conceive the big picture..im very excited to really "trip out" on acid, my first time i didnt quite get there but i will make sure i do next time..thoughts seem way more controlled compared to shrooms..the energy in lsd seems way more stable and not so all over the place..i believe something will change in 2012 those who dont need to reconsider..if our planet goes on like it is right now for much longer we are doomed..we are using are planet as if it is indestructible..chopping down all its trees,pollutting its oceans,draining its oil,polluting the skies...its time for rapid change,slow change at this point wont do it for us..the buddhas out there need to just keep projecting out peace,love and visions of a positive future..change IS coming..embrace it

 

you're either going crazy or going sane. there is definitely an awakening of sorts, at least among the younger gens. I think we were spoiled from the relative peace time of the eighties and esp. the nineties. I think we were long overdue for a turbulent decade, and we have it now. we don't quite realize yet the extent of the damage done by bush jr., he's been pretty good at delaying consequences until later presidents take office, but we can at least thank bush and co. for showing us just how badly things can go if we are too comfortable and don't pay attention. people will never be close to their potential unless there is some impending threat (take the vietnam draft and the hip movement). I think there still would have been a movement with no draft, but it's probably the reason it was so huge. its easier to be idealistic when you observe shit all around you

 

unsane

no but really I am completely crazy, Ive already come to terms with this
I mean theres still enough rationality in my brain to like function and be able to articulate my insanity in an understandable way. But really I am quite fond of my highly irrational brain functions.

 

I feel like I should share my psychadelic experiences with other people too. But most times I don't bother because Acid has such a bad reputation with some people (propaganda) that I feel I'll be viewed as an Evangelical Christian.

Too many similarities with, "Would you like to hear the good news?"

"Hey guess what? I've seen the light and its beautiful. You should see it too."
"Really? How'd you do that?"
"I ate some acid."
"Isn't that the stuff that causes temporal lobe damage?"

And the same debate is rehashed. I'm finding more and more that the people that have tripped don't even want to talk about it, around here anyway.

LSD certainly has taken on a peculiar reputation in the north east.

 

some very deep thinking... unfourtinatly as much as we wish hope and dream (and trip) we arnt fixing or helping anything in the long run. people with different views of the world will inevitably conflict with one another and fight. sorry but i dont really see any truth in the 2012 thing.

 

Cerveau- I couldn't agree wtih you more on the northeast. Often, stuck in the rapture of a psychedelic epiphany, i think to myself "this is incredible!unreal!i wish xyz could experience/see this!" No. Wrongggg. Because no matter how i explain it, no matter what i put the emphasis on people XY and Z will always revert back to "yeah but that stuff makes your brain bleed."

The stigma attached to acid is unreal, it frustrates me that more people i know cannot get past it. However, i do understand that it's not meant for everyone....but i still wish that some people would take me seriously when i tell them about it's benefits. Or atleast be a sounding board for my experiences, lol.

 

yes. I know what you mean. I'm really the only tripper I know, aside from another friend, who really likes to tell trip stories. And I do think I'm rather good at it, because even my friends who think lsd is crazy still like to hear them. I think it's important to make it genuinely entertaining and interesting to listen to. Cause even if its absolutely crazy nuts and people are like 'this guy lost it', as long as the story is genuinely entertaining, its still gonna register positively with them and they'll listen in a good light.