hello to all diviners of the sage

Im a big cacti delcti guy. Been workin on my mescaline research. The stuff is strong and lasts a long time. LSA is similar but doesnt last as long . Plus you can fall asleep right after you peak. At least I can. But salvia. she is powerful and short in duration. I used to smoke the 6x. cause that is all i could afford at the time of my experimentation. I would like to move up to 10x next time around. big goa trance fanatic on salvia. I call her divi. try tuning into goa trance on di.fm.com while partaking of your salvia journey. The music comes alive and everything is so psychedelic. I know it works without it. but its some supernatural trippy shit man! Well anyways the purpose of my post is to shed some light on salvia tincture. I have tried using quids with success but didn't get to far (otherworldly). definetly visions. but the bag was a gift for a friend. so i had to keep it mellow on the consumption. So salvia tinctures are expensive and since iamshaman is no longer providing salvia products to all us heads. we have to make our own tincture. Daniel Siebert has his tinctures. but they're pricey. no one really posts any reports of the chewing of the leaves or the ancient way of partaking. so my theory is. if you google 'how to make a tincture'. you will find an easy recipe that involves crushing your leaves into a jar and filling to just above the plant material with vodka. Shaking every other day for 2 weeks. then to strain. I would use a baking strainer to get the majority of the plant bulk. Then refine the extract through a reusable coffee filter. bottle in the dark brown tincture jars and go to town. What are your guys thoughts on the subject? who out there partakes of their salvia in a tincture or quid form?

 

I posted about chewing plain (fresh) leaves in the experience thread.
I don't do quid, really, I chew 1 or 2 leaves at a time for a few minutes each before swallowing and taking the next one or two. 6 does it, maybe 8.
I've used tincture but have yet to make my own. The experience was similar in onset, duration and intensity to plain leaf chewing.

Not my first "leaf" experience, but my first strong quid "alternative" experience recently:
(copied it)
I tried a method that had been recommended to me by a more experienced friend of mine. Worked very nicely for me.
Sipping wine (now she says it should be red wine of some sort, not white for whatever reason), and chewing one or two fresh leaves at a time, very slowly. I kept them in my mouth during a couple sips, then swallowed the leaf bits and ate another single or double leaf.
I ate 6 leaves total before I felt it coming on. I then kept one more leaf in my mouth, and chewed it as I felt it coming on, and lay in bed.
This was a very different experience than extracts for sure.
Suddenly I was either laying in bed or floating in the air face up. YES or NO was presented to me, not in words or visuals, but the idea. YES meant I was floating in the sky.
I went with YES. The YES and NO were very profound, and each had a big implication, so maybe I just capitalized it for that reason.

Anyway going with yes, I was extremely high up in the air, floating over a landscape with pyramids. The feeling was I was extremely high(lol) and
passing over hundreds of people building pyramids and other structures. Down there was barren, maybe rocky or brick, and perfectly 'clean' - flat barring the structures. Can't explain that one bit.

Obviously if I'm facing up it makes no sense as we know it to 'see' under me but I did.
The thing is as I passed these structures in progress, it felt like my spine connected to each one, and as I kept moving they tore apart, a sensation that felt like it should hurt, but didn't. It was like I felt connected to them then literally ripped apart from them yet there was no pain.

It was an awesome experience even if not all comfortable, and then suddenly I got the feeling of water. A ringing sound of sorts in my mind, but also the sound of ocean and that familiarity with the place that I can't put my finger on yet. From barren dry pyramids and structures with 'people' or something building to this water. I figured it out right away, it made perfect sense because... damn, I don't know.
I thought then "I bet I'm sweating pretty bad because of that water feeling" and then I realized I was stupid to say that, like I somehow did something wrong in assuming a physical queue brought on my trip, and felt ahsamed. LOL.
I actually wasn't sweating a bit. The bed under me felt hard, my senses were extremely heightened when I came about my usual senses. I felt like I woke out of a lucid dream and man did I wanna get back in. I didn't bother to try though, figured I'd quit while I was ahead and just meditate and think on the trip a few days.