Duck and Cover! - Iraq War may end soon for US!

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No, I was just responding to your logical fallacy with a similar logical fallacy. It's a fun game, you see. You make an illogical statement and I mockingly respond with a similar illogical statement and the circle of illogic continues until the Earth explodes.

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You aren't making any sense.

How is picking up a gun and killing people, protecting anyone? It's a self-defeating task. However, that's an argument all of its own. I am just commenting on your belief that Americans are somehow more important than Iraq's.

I know that you care about Americans more so than Iraqi's, and you're wrong for thinking that. White supremacists believe that the white 'race' is superior to all other 'races'. Now if you replace white supremacist and other 'races', with Americans and Iraqis, then you see my point.

Can you honestly say that you KNOW any of these people? Not likely, so you can't use the argument that you should 'protect your own'. The only difference between Iraqi's and Americans is where people are geographically, and slight difference in culture, but the overall humanity of the two 'peoples' remain. We're all human, living very human lives.

If you really want to go into why picking up a gun is a fruitless endeavor, then we can, but I am not sure if this is the thread to do so.

I won't go into name calling, because it will get us no where, and it's a very immature thing to do.

You're right, though. I shouldn't have told you to snap out of it. I just felt very uncomfortable with the comment that you were making, and thought that it would be important to change your mind about it, because I see it as dangerous thinking. In other words, I thought I was being helpful, and I'm sorry that you interpreted any other way.

Also, I am helping the Iraqi people in my own way by simply doing my part by debating with others about the spoils of war. It really all starts by changing individual minds and to reshape their thinking for the better (this includes me, of course). I really don't know how to say that without sounding 'pompous', but that's just how it is. I do care, and everyone displays it differently.

 

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That's what I was commenting on. It's not a typical tactic to try to explain why you may be wrong about particular statements...

Anyway, I tried being as respectful as possible in the end. It's your choice if you want to have a serious discussion. It just seems like you use rudeness to shield yourself from why you may be wrong, and use it as a distraction.

Oh well... I'm done.

 

What? What's with the ad hominems? How is this relevant to the discussion?

Yeah, me too.

 

Anyway, I am pretty happy that the war could be over soon. I mean... it's about damn time...

I'm not too happy about it, though... when this war ends, another one will start up right after... So, I am not exactly jumping for joy. We'll always find a reason to get into more wars.

 

With you, obviously.

 

The floors in the Pentagon must be ankle deep in jizz right now.

 

I expected better from you. Picking up a gun is not the only recourse. As to your question of who would I or anyone else who cares save first, the only reasonable answer would be not to consider who each person was, but who was in the most immediate danger.

 

If only one person has to die, then I would want it to be me, instead of having to choose between others.

 

Sigh...

"If you give such a shit about the lives of the Iraqi people, why are you not in the military helping their cause???"

Look, I already explained it to you. Being a pacifist, 'helping the cause' would be a contradictory term for me. So, in my way I AM helping, by NOT fighting. I really don't expect you to understand a bit of wisdom such as that, because you're the most arrogant, pat-yourself-on-the-back whenever he can individuals on this board. I don't think there is a single person on these boards that is level-headed would disagree with that.

You CONSTANTLY are unaware when your own arguments aren't making sense, and are COMPLETELY oblivious to when your questions have been responded to. The only thing that you are concerned with is your own views of the truth of the matter. It seems pretty apparent that you aren't interested in debating, but looking for an excuse to pat yourself on the back whenever you can. Hey, everyone should be allowed to express their opinions in their own way, but there is a certain point where argument is no longer an argument and becomes something else: a personal attack.

We aren't misunderstanding your questions. We understand very well, and we answered very honestly. You just either aren't getting it, or don't want to get it, or respect it enough to leave it as is. It's just that you aren't getting it because your head is too far up your own ass to even notice.

There hasn't been a single day that I haven't seen you being a complete asshole to others on these boards. Ya, ya, people that make statements online should be able to debate over it like men, but you confuse manliness with 'assholian' behavior. Being an ass isn't what being a man is about. You confuse the two and it's very obvious.

The very fact that you consider respect and kindness as a dodge is a statement all its own.

P.S. It's pretty fruitless to try to answer hypothetical questions. No one really knows who they will choose at a certain critical moments. But personally, I wouldn't choose based on their nationality. We should have grown from that type of thinking already.

PPS I seriously am done. You aren't interested in debates, and it's useless to try to debate with you. There is a point where doing so is pointless. I have been very patient multiple times, and respectful; and this 'wounded pacifist' really had enough. Don't confuse kindness with weakness. It is very difficult to remain kind to an ass, but something has to give eventually.

I wish you the best in your life (even this will be interpreted as a kind of dodge, et al, but whatever. I really mean it). I hope that you can eventually clear your head. It's really a mess in there, and I don't say that to be an ass, pompous, or whatever. Good luck.

 

I put all life before my own. I have sworn to try to live my life through doing no harm. I am a citizen of nature not a nation.

 

not something you would expect to hear from a "hippy"

Thats pretty much the same "thinkin" that got us where we are today.

 

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