Party is OVER!

If you do the proper research* anything can be found, but blatently giving out sources pm to someone you dont know is a no-no. They could be DEA you never know. WebTryp did little to the RC community except down some US based websites. If you use google with a little creativity you will find what your looking for. And researching and finding the sources is usually more fun then getting the product offered and definitely more fun then getting it given to you without earning it. It gives way more of a sense of accomplishment. Something you dont get via PM.

 

This whole "drug war" is ridiculous...

Fo sho researchin is fun, but its always nice to get a little help, I kno I could use it sometimes...haha...just dont be stupid about it....

 

Idiots were always more numerous than those who actually use their brains for more than puttin drugs into it...
So banned drugs will remain that way for a long time; otherwise, *way* too many would be jumping off of buildings, killing themselves in a psychotic episode, or lethally OD'ing on certain drugs...

For humanity's own good, drugs should remain banned for a lil longer, until a future generation is progressed enough to be reposible with these things...

Plus, it's so much more fun when they are illegal, imo

 

Its not when you get caught

 

Actually, if people could wrap their heads around the idea of using psychedelics responsibely and not ABUSING them or just trying to get as fucked up as they could, it wouldnt be a problem.

I mean, a new drug comes along, it becomes a fad, and then it can fade, however it becoming a public issue fuels it. Look at salvia d. I remember trying it like 9 years ago. However it wasnt until a few years ago it started to REALLY take off, but ironically enough, I believe thats around the time the first US state banned it... hmmmmm...

you said, "its more fun when its illegal"

well, thats what drives a good handful of irresponsable users to try something for their first time, especially when you are looking at someone in the age range of say 12 to 17 or so, you tell a teen not to try something, and thats its bad, and then their friends tell them its fun, it just makes it that much more tempting because of the risk.

 

well, yea, i admit it: i'm not so sure i would've tried so many molecules, if it wasn't for the risk *aswell*. And I'm pretty much sure that is true for 99% of the people.

Look at the Netherlands. I was recently talking to a girl that is 19, and never tried weed in her life. Nor does she want to do that any time soon. Yet, I used to know 16 years olds in my country (where weed is illegal), that were regular weed smokers

And this is also one of the reasons why the war on drugs IS counter productive

 

lol I know people that started smokin weed when they were like 11, laws or no laws almost anyone can get weed if they want

 

Speak for yourself. Most responsible drug users I know have no care if drugs are legal or illegal. They will do them either way. They don't get some thrill because they use an illegal drug. They use that drug to gain experience in life, basically. Drugs, more so psychedelics, should be used as learning tools. Getting a cheap thrill because you're using an illegal drug should have nothing to do with it. People using drugs because they're illegal is one of the reasons they still are illegal. Kool_thus, I'm not saying this is the only reason you use drugs. But don't you agree, a responsible user can have irresponsible aspects of their drug use?

As a society, we are already progressed enough to use psychedelics responsibly. Most of us don't have any clue that we are though. That is the problem I think. The ones who know have to teach the ones who don't. Once again, history repeats itself. Just my thoughts on the subject.

 

fuck if they made some inert white powder illegal I wouldn't use it lol. I use drugs because of the insight I get from them, although in other cases I use drugs because of the pleasure I get from them. The pleasure drugs are the ones that fuck with you the most. I smoke weed because it helps me feel chilled out, if it wasn't for that effect I wouldn't just smoke it because it was illegal.

I think most people who use drugs responsibly have periods when they don't. I know sometimes I don't use drugs responsibly when I go on a binge. but at the same time I do use them responsibly because I study the effects and understand the precautions that need to be taken, and I use appropreate materials and equipment and ensure it is the correct substance via reagents and shit.

 

i was talking about the first time
i doubt you guys knew how much insight you gain from psychedelics and how good weed will chill you out, before you even tried it.
the first time you did it - it was because of curiosity, social pressure, or thrill. i think these are the main reasons why one tries drugs for the first time..

 

I somewhat agree with you. For me, boredom sparked my initial, irresponsible drug use. That irresponsible use though, helped me grow into a person that could understand the possibility of using drugs for a better purpose. I still remember being 13/14 years old and deciding that I either needed to start using drugs responsibly or stop using drugs altogether. I chose the latter, and I'm glad I did.

Had I been older when I first started using drugs, things might've been different. I would have come at them from a whole other angle. Who knows what angle that would've been though, as I've already choose to start at an early age. My guess is curiosity as I've always been a curious person. It's difficult to gauge something like that. You'd have to re-fabricate your entire life after initial drug use to understand what you would have done differently.

 

ditto...but a few years later...curiosity and fun became respect and appreciation...and still fun..lol

 

The idea that "future" generations would handle things better is off. Human beings are base and simple and always will be. the mass of them that is , actually i think its getting worse. people cant handle eating correctly so how would they suddenly become "wise" in their drug use.

 

people are irresponsible, but hey at the of the day Darwin rules should apply...The weak, stupid, irresponsible people don't withstand the duty of evolution, which is thinking and looking after yourself...they get eliminated sounds rough but its true.

 

The "masses" can only become hip to the truths about drugs when it's okay to actually TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT DRUGS. That means government, law enforcement, and all those with power and influence. As long as they continue to equate marijuana with meth/crack/heroin/etc. and downplay the benefits of drugs by using overblown scare stories and propaganda, the majority of people will continue to believe it. Just look at the media and other capitalist bullshit that passes as entertainment, the typical "American" diet, our extravagant status symbols and spending habits, and the general de-evolution of intelligent thinking in this country and you'll see what I mean.

Anything fun, enlightening, mind-expanding or possibly dissidence-inducing is immediately made illegal in much the same fashion that they sell us their made up justifications for war, increasing gas prices, and the like: find some tragic freak accidents that were caused by a drug (tell half-truths, leaving out vital details as to WHY an event happened as with 9/11), make up some incredible myths about holes in the brain, drained spinal fluid, etc (tell a story that can be easily re-told as a scare tactic and has some entertainment value, as with "terrorists" and "foreigners eating babies"), and threaten people with legal consequences (in the form of surveillance through the Patriot Act or other operations possibly leading to jail time, etc).

There is no such thing as a war on "poverty", "drugs", "terror" or any other inanimate thing: there is only a war on people. And all these "wars" have 2 key motivators: money and power. It's the American Dream, after all.

They did it with ephedra in '04 and are in the process of doing it to salvia right now, so it's no surprise that they're trying to eliminate these chemicals...it's just disheartening. And anyone who thinks for a second that any of the current presidential hopefuls has ANY intent of changing this process is sorely mistaken. Not that one person could overturn this entire system all alone anyway, but it's something to remember when endorsing your political puppet of choice come election season.

Long live democracy.

 

Damn why the fuck did they have to ban MARIJUANNA, let alone banning salvia divinorum, years back I was able to order that shit, even the extract shit, now its getting banned everywhere in the states.

What next banning herbal smokes that only make you a little buzzed?
You know you can do an extract on the herbs and spray the herbal mix and make it potent.

 

I have to applaud that rant Codone much truth in there, fuck money and power it should be about happiness and preservation but we slowly destroy the earth were on while most of the earths population is depressed,starving,angry or whatever instead of enjoying the luck of living here cause who knows afterlife could be MUCH worse, and this is fucked up to say cause i am one but fuck humans we are to the earth what cancer and aids is to us

 

But don't forget it's a meth precurser; I don't really think they'd have picked up on it if it wasn't for that. You can still buy ma huang, or ephedra sinica, as a tea online, and it contains ephedrine.

It's just one of those things, though; the party isn't over, people just have to get creative. No matter what they do, you can still buy n n dmt and mescaline in plant sources online, easily, totally easily, and do a simple procedure on erowid to obtain the chemicals.

Those who have the creativity and motivation to do it can have what they want. You can learn how to do _anything_ on the internet.

 

Don't underestimate alcohol lobbies.