Why not? In the end, you actions will change squat, the universe will either squish or diffuse apart, the human race will not survive. Even in the short term, it's more likely than not that you will be more or less forgotten a short 50-100 years after your death. So... Why not?
Good question. The answer is central our ideas of meaning, which are largely subjective, but reflect some commonalities based on the human condition and shared values. I find existence not just merely interesting but miraculous. The experience of our natural environment would be meaningful enough, but the experience of other people is mindblowing, and the experience of God even for a second borders on system overload. I think that knowing God for a second is sufficient justification for my existence, but I've known God for years. How many seconds is that? We've barely scratched the surface of the richness of human knowledge--so much to learn, so much to experience, so little time. Why assume that your actions won't change squat? Interaction with you has changed me, and possibly lots of other people on this site, and surely in your face-to-face everyday contacts your impact is at least as powerful. Your rationality and scientific knowledge have certainly made an impression. Every encounter with another intelligent being such as you, every idea, every bit of new knowledge is an encounter with God. I'm in Heaven now. Why would I want to leave?
it may be a long time to be gone, but its just a short time to be here. settle down, you'll get your chance man. after all, there have been no survivors before us. im ready and willing to die, but until i do im ready and willing to live.
well from the atheist stance. your alive. it's the "default stance". so if you want to kill yourself, you must have some sort of reason or overwhelming evidence to do so right? if not, then why would you.
Haha, word. I think for myself I would say that there's enough cool stuff in the world and enough cool people to keep me occupied for quite a while. I think that if I were to place less value on my life, I would, instead of committing suicide, pursue more odd and possibly dangerous adventures. Okie, I think that maybe this is only a question from the atheist standpoint, but all these interactions, which I agree have value and importance, will eventually mean nothing or darn close to it. BTW, this isn't me saying "Hey, talk me out of it!" I think it's an interesting question. Maybe more from a certain perspective.
Wow. I think I would need more of a reason to do it than not to do it. Why not? Because it hurts, because who knows what is on the other side, because living is more fun when it's going right, and if it's not, things can always change, and the #1 reason: because it's irreversible. That's me trying not to get into religious reasons. I think I did all right
Suicide is frowned upon because you've asked to get off the merry-go-round. The other riders object because it interferes with their ride too. Karmically, you cannot escape karmic debt because you avoid the circumstances that help pay it off. It will be there waiting for you in the next life. You'd be better off just getting it out of the way the first time. Suicide as an end of life option for the terminally ill is another matter. Its the INTENT that damns suicide for most people. x
shit, if the bad outweighs the good go for it. but first do whatever you can to make the good outweigh the bad. the only reason i can find for anyone to stay alive is to experience pleasure in any way we can. we also need to think about other peoples feeling too.
You can't have it both ways. Suicide is always wrong, even for the terminally ill, because they are trying to escape their karma as well, what a futile attempt and a waste of time. It is better to go through the suffering in this life and get it over with than deciding to die and adding more bad karma to our karmic toll. We all have limited time on earth, some have more, some have less. It is better to use the time we have to get out of samsara , not be bewildered by its varied forms.
In truth no one can save us. People say "jesus died for your sins on the cross" , he didn't choose to die, he was killed by the romans as punishment for going against the emperor, and he didn't bend down to something he thought as false. It takes great courage, and he died for christianity and his teachings. This doesn't mean that you can go do whatever you want and come back to church on sunday and say "I am sorry" No, it doesn't work that way, you will get the results for your bad and good karma and nothing in the world will change that. No one can die and save another, the only person you can save is yourself.
since when did "we" choose to get on the ride? anyway as for me, I am Hoping the ride gets better sooner or later so not killing myself yet...
