Infinite punishment for finite sins in hell just?

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I have long thought about the fundamentalist Christian concept of infinite torment in ell for what we as only finite mortals can do, transgress against god in a puny mortal way.



This would be the ultimate injustice n my mind, what do you guys have to say about this?



Alan

 

are you talking about unbreakable sins, life long living sins. And a continious punishment for those sins. Which sins would you be referring to? Please elaborate more on your concept.

 

Well, according to fundamentalist any sin outside the grace of Jesus carries this appallng everlasting punishement nd torment in hell. I dont agree with this and feel there are degrees of punishment and reward in the aftelife. If not how could a loving god be considered to be just?.

But I do have a problem with monsters in human form such as hitler, stalin and depraved child molesters ect etc,

Alan

 

Then it sounds like you are your own God. If God is real, then who are you to say what is just and what is not just? Who are you to say anything really?

By God's very nature, he could wipe out all of existence tomorrow, and it would just be. There is no point in trying to define God, especially with human standards. Now, if you ask me if I believe in hell, I will tell you that I cannot say. I have no way of knowing.

But if you dont believe in it just b/c you can't accept that it could be true, then you are possibly deluding yourself, and only buying into your own fantasies about how things should be.

 

If I don't agree with something then I tend not to worry myself with it. If people can murder and rape and still get into 'heaven' by saying yes lord i accpet you, then this world really is crazy.

 

It seems that such a hell, as described in the bible, would be unjust not merely by our standards, but by those laid out in that book. If you are to take the bible as truth, you have to rationalize that somehow. If you want to be taken seriously.

But I agree with Neodude, in that it would be silly to put human judgement on a an such an abstract thought as god.

 

I don't want to waste time on a 'theory', if there is a hell - I will find out eventually. But for now I am going to live as well as I can based on what I think is right. But you're right, if people can live their life whatever way they want then accept jesus on their death bed and get into heaven - I wouldn't trust that god.

 

Sorry but this doesnt make any sense. "Not believeing in something" = "Not accepting that it could be true".

Not to believe means not accepting as true... so you basically saying " If I dont believe in something because I dont believe in something then I am deluding myself" and makes absolutly no sense..

I say the one buying in his fantasies is you, becasue you considering the existance of something you have absolutly no proof of. a fruit of human immagination.

 

well, the problem with that is you left out the word possibly. The whole point of my post was me trying to say just b/c you cant accept something as true, does not necessarily make it false.

I cannot accept that the world is round. Am I deluding myself?

I think it's called argument ad incredulity. not sure on that freakersoup probably knows what Im talking about.

 

Neodude,

you are a thinker, good for you this subject goes nowhere and is an everlasting enigma.

alan

 

then why did you start this thread?

of course everyone knows we aren't going to really get anywhere. but it's fun for discussion.

 

It doesn't make sense. Its more fear propaganda. I don't worship a god that does that. sorry, I'm a free thinker