"Ecoterrorists" stop another GM plot.

Discussion in 'The Environment' started by hippiehillbilly, Feb 29, 2008.

  1. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    The whole GM thing is getting WAY outta hand here people..

    is this what its coming to? is it going to be left up to us to stop the onslaught of GM garbage by whatever means necessary ?

    this is one scary read,,they are going to royally fuck up this planet with this shit if we as the human race dont do something to stop it..

    http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/02/ecoterrorists-m.html

    Ecoterrorists May Have Kept GM Bug From Wreaking Climate Havoc


    A widely despised plant pathogen may play a vital role in the formation of rain and snow -- and had ecoterrorists not fought a genetically modified version of the bacteria, unforeseen weather shifts might have followed. That's one interpretation of a sequence of events described to me by Brent Christner, a Louisiana State Microbiologist who studies the interactions of bacteria and clouds.

    Most rain and snow begins as cloud-borne ice crystals, but contrary to popular belief, pure water vapors don't freeze at zero degrees Celsius. Their real freezing point is closer to -35 degrees. Nucleators -- tiny particles that give the water molecules a convenient place to coalesce -- allow freezing at warmer temperatures.

    In in a study published this week in Science, Christner found that ice-forming bacteria, or "biological ice nucleators," are more common than anyone ever expected. Snow samples around the world contained high levels of bacteria, and these appear to be especially important to the precipitation cycles of moderate climes.

    Of the different strains, the most common is Pseudomonas syringae, a microbe that causes frost to form on plant leaves. The leaves then wither and decompose, giving P. syringae a source of food. That now appears to be just one stage of their life cycle: another is spent in the sky, where they cause snowflakes and raindrops to form around them, and ride them down to a fresh crop.

    This cycle and the role of P. syringae in precipitation is just now being studied, but scientists and farmers have long tried to eradicate the bug. That, said Christner, was the purpose of one of the first genetically modified organisms:
    There's been a lot of debate on the release of genetically modified organisms, and that was the bug that kicked off the GE controversy.

    If you can take the organism that causes freeze damage, knock out the gene that causes ice nucleation, then you can scatter this organism on the plant and it competitively excludes ice nucleators and eliminates the problem of freeze damage.

    Pseudomonas syringae
    was modified and released. Then the sample plots were destroyed by ecoterrorists. It's not clear whether scientific information came out of it ... and now we ask, is P. syringae a good guy? A bad guy? Do you really want to eliminate this from your crops? If it's acceptable to assume it has a meteorological role, do you take a 5 or 10 percent cut in your yield to actually keep these bugs around so they'lll continue their role? It's something to think about.

    Christner was careful not to justify the ecoterrorism, and I'd like to take a moment and do the same: this post is not in any way meant to validate or support the tactics -- including death threats [pdf] -- used to stop the experiments. It's just a relevant piece of history ... and if you're interested in the interaction of bacteria and atmosphere, keep an eye on the main Wired page, where my article on Christner's study should soon appear.
     
  2. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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  3. Hiptastic

    Hiptastic Unhedged

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    You cannot stop genetic modification. DNA is not stable. That's why we evolve.
     
  4. Nature_Child

    Nature_Child Member

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    You cannot pretend GMOs are the same thing as evolved organisms. I have yet to meet an environmentalist who has argued that we need to stop evolution.

    It kind of offends me how they basically state that had that GMO been released there would of been catastrophic climate change, but "we don't support the terrorists"


    We've reached a sad point when we'd rather the earth was destroyed than have those who tried to destroy it receive death threats.
     
  5. Joeysahippy1992

    Joeysahippy1992 Banned

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    Dude you chat shit man no-one gives a fuck about the evironment. You stupid ass protester you just make yourself look like an asshole horse raping shit eater.
     
  6. flmkpr

    flmkpr Senior Member

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    i beleive that "gmo,s" are probably the biggist threat to the world today! just take for example terminator seed technology, it has already been released into the enviroment world wide! if yo cant save viable seed you have to buy it! so who do you buy it from? as this crosspolinates with outher strains there will be no viable seed left! so were do we get it? hence, slavasbad! just a quick google on the subject can let you in on a whole lot of info! and every one thinks rat. is nuts!!!!!! lol !! oopps! crying out for some SANITY!!!!!!!!!!
     

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