iv been thinking, and iv heard some things about perceptual alterations induced after acid even when your not on acid. such as objects getting bigger and smaller, and time distortions in the sense that you actually see events unfold in fast forward (not just perceving time going slow or somthing). as well as others which i hope somone knows about and will post us some info. i think this shit is very interesting. considering if i keep up my acid use, and have some of these things lasting in my perception forever. allready im seeing things in fast forward motion. its exremely strange. i know from the two exact trips in which it stemmed from. one of them i was trippin soo hard at this rave, and as the lights danced across people and the psychadelic music made this insane noise my whole perception of time was being alterated to such a profound extent im having these alterations in perception somwhat everyday now. its like litteraly for a 1-2 seconds things are being played out in fast forward. i think it would get pretty strange if things started getting bigger and smaller, and other massive alterations in perception would be fucking mental. anyone know of other alterations or have experienced any of these?
You mean.... like not seeing physical look of people and things, just "seeing" them as energy, or knowing what people think, no matter what they are saying....or knowing exactly what is happening with somebody even if they are far....... Yes, people say that you will never be the same after acid, and I completely agree.
Beside what Shapeshifter said, visual perceptual alternations of "just seeing things as energy" is like sometimes I would see that something moved away from me a little bit and it comes back, or it changes the size but not to much sort of like breathing and not to mention that air is never empty it has tiny, tiny little dots constantly vibrating. You have a feeling that solid things are not solid at all. And right now as I type, letters are moving in a small wave. Yes, it's a everyday life and I haven't had acid for some time now. And I'm not the only one experiencing this and maybe there is more than what I know. After first time I had acid, I noticed after it that the colors are very vibrant and they stayed like that even now. My explanation is that it was like that all the time just I was not aware of it. And what do you mean by events unfolding in front of your eyes fast? Like you see them happening very fast and than it really happens. Something like deja vu? Or you are just perceiving that time is faster in certain moments?
hmmm. not like dejevu at all. and i dont mean just an altered way of thinking, as in thinkign 'these people are energy' i mean actuall alterations in visual perception. i mean experiencing somthing in fast forward. and seeing it that way. things are playing at speed number 1 at normal. but when your having these alterations whether on the trip or afterwards, they are playing at 1.5 or 2 for a a second two. and your having these alterations in perceiving time. but not just the usual time is going slow on acid feeling. i dont know. the objects becoming bigger and smaller is a pretty big one. maybe if youve done a thumprint dose or somthing i dont know. but that makes me wonder, has anyone done that, or rather do you know or have yous heard of anyone who has done it or i guess anything remotly close to that? i dont know but im starting to realise alot of the crazy things that can happen if you do alot of acid
Yes you can. It is not that you don't know what you are doing, its more like beeing in two different worlds together but fully aware of both. Its like when you look at one point for a long time and the picture becomes blured, but you are still fully aware at what you are looking at.
for some reason i started really THINKING about EVEYTHING (like everything i do everything i say everything anyone alse says, anything i see. literally everything) for the psat like year now and i've come to realise that i can actually tell what people are thinking, quite like what u said, and also that im like kinda telepathic, like u no when u think something and then someone says it right after u think it. i've put that to the test a bunch of times by just thinking it and then it comes out of someone elses mouth, i've even tried like talking to people without looking at them or actually talking to them, but only like directing a thought towards that person like "hey bob" and if bob looks at me or physically starts conversating than it worked. theres also like i think about someone and that person calls me. And i can also tell now anytime when someone says something and is thinking something else, but the thing is when this does happen my facial expression changes minutely but it is enought for that person to know that i know. well. i think they know. at first i tought everyone was able to do this which made me try neww and harder things, which than made me realise how much more i know than the people around me (don't mean to sound cocky). i've yet to try lsd though, that will definately help me with this telepathia. it's kind of like a whole new meaning to testing the mind. instead of learning thing i'm teaching my self to do some crazy shit, well, im working on it
I sometimes leave my body for about 2 seconds when I am driving, kind of what LSD does. I don't know if this is the same but I'm sure its connected somehow
Yeah i think i understand what your experiencing. its happened to me maybe 6 or 7 times, but only just recently after my last overly intense trip. (that night and the following morning). Only instead of fast forwarding, everything would go slo-mo for like 2 or 3 seconds. But i havn't experienced it since.
Im not sure about the fast forwarding thing your describing or the telepathy junk. ( i never believed in that unless your tripping with eachother) Though i took a giants amount of 2c-t2 in short spans of time and am still being affected by persistant perceptual alterations. They seemed to last longer than any alterations caused by lsd or mushrooms. Patterns that are still sway alot still as if i was on a small small dose of LSA. The perception of objects in front of my eyes sometimes change perceptually, like the objects dont move but my perception of where the lines cause the objects to stop change around. Its really tough to explain, and many times things in a very small way grow/shrink perceptually. I know they arent really changing size but sometimes my eyes see them to be varying. Its very minor. In fact my vision of the dark is complete swirling patterns. No where near the clarity of patterns on psychedelics but If i stare at the dark it is just patterns swaying around. I dont even remember what the dark used to look like. Its never just black anymore.
i've had times where i look at something and it seems like it stretches away from me and gives me some weird feeling. i try to make it happen perposely sometimes, it doesnt work everytime though
To anyone who might be able to answer this: does the telepathy allow you to experience past thoughts (memories) or is it related to the current moment? And Peter, yes people who have taken thumbprints are never the same again. Chinacat on the shroomery posted his experiences a few years ago: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1429025#Post1429025
wow thats fucking incredible. does this guy still hang around these forums? id love to get more details it sounds pretty amazing.
the past is the current moment?... my metaphor for this is, the past and future are actually just functions in the brain. Past and future are synaptic processes, or storings, in the brain. Really there is only this immediate moment 'now' and past and future only exist synaptically. I remember for a number of months after really breaking my mind open the first time, a childhood memory would arise, or something from my past and I would hold the memory, meditate to release the metaphor, the memory, associated with that feeling. To essentially free up my brain synaptically from being tied up with the past. I don't feel like I have any 'past memories' anymore. I only feel like I have complete usage of my brain right now. All those feelings people typically associate with childhood and have tied with all these childhood memories, I don't really have memories like that anymore, I just use those feelings, those portions of my brain, in my everyday life. But by that context. No the 'telepathy' aspect I find completely unrelated to past memories. As past memories are just things in your brain right now that you can free up and change this instant if you truly wanted to. Whereas telepathy is interconnection between multiple brains right now.