Dog Fighting - Respectable tradition or ugly sport?

Why do dogs deserve that compassion and cows don't? Don't see any of you getting riled at McDonalds or the local slaughterhouse like this.

I'm just saying. Consistency, anybody?

Anybody?

 

I'm not arguing that point.

 

And if anybody flames me while I'm gone, I'll say it now:

Fuck you.

 

A lot of people do. And I'm also against bullfighting.

And yes, I do think it's acceptable to eat some animals and not others. And yes that's a societal bias. Specifically dogs, as there were never cows brought into the rubble of the world trade center to find people burried in rubble.

 

Fag.

 

Dogfighting is sick. Anyone who engages in it deserves to have their nuts chewed off by a pit bull.

 

any of you who think its a "respectable tradition" are STUPID AS FUCK!!!

 

it's an interesting discussion and not just for effect. people frequently choose to believe that the standard white american is the entire population of the usa and they sprang fully blown from the ass of the world, but the fact is that we didn't create all ugliest animal abuse for our own entertainment. the difference between people eating cows and such is that USUALLY they die very quickly. if they don't people get fucking furious. death doesn't bother us so much as consistent cruelty and abuse. and when that consistent cruetly and abuse is for entertainment.

but it's a deeper issue than that. many of those who are involved in these so-called sports view it as a sort of symbol and reminder of the ugliness of everyday life and the daily struggle for life, death and power in the world. to never actually see blood and death really does skew reality in people's minds. either towards extreme fear or extreme numbness.

 

What are you getting at here? I dunno if I agree with this.

 

Organized dog fighting is wrong, humans should not decide what goes on in nature. However, if i take my dog out to a feild and it sees another dog and kills it, is there really anything wrong with that. Dogs are preditors in nature.

My 1 dog is a fearce mother fucker and has killed many animals, and scares the shit out of every dog its seen. Id do as much as i could to stop it from fighting though.

 

I do not like the tradition of stuffing yourself with as much food as you can with Christmas. Still this keeps going on.

 

these sports typically come from a symbolic viewing of the life and death struggles. the people who still engage aren't necessarily just out to watch some poor animal get tore the fuck up. yeah, there's plenty of those people. but it did and does for a lot of people hold a powerful symbology.

people have called me a monster often enough for being a hunter. i have to admit, while i think dogfighting and bullfighting are awful, cruel things, i find a certain degree of sympathy.

 

nigga wtf

YEAH a lot of people do get pissed at the way cows are treated. but even if they didnt, YOU CANNOT JUSTIFY somthing like dog fighting by simply saying "oh well there is plenty of other animal abuse in the world" you people make me sick.. there is tons of child abuse in the world too but how would you feel if your babys mama had your kid for the sole purpose of abusing him?? thats what i thought. no matter which way you look at it abuse and neglect of innocent animals is WRONG. i dont give a fuck if its in their nature to fight, its not up to you to put them in that situation..

and how can you sit there and listen to this defense lawyer and think "hmm, maybe he has a point??" HE IS PAID TO GET THAT STUPID MOTHERFUCKER OFF THE HOOK

 

he's not defending dog fighting, he as much said so. he's opening it up for discussion. it's exposes a lot of personal biases that a lot of people wouldn't otherwise know they had. in addition, he's being polite and reasonable and you're flying off the handle. and i really hate it when people start throwing out the "nigga" thing, please stop, you're offending me.

 

I find ritual watching of animals tear each other up is inhuman whether or not some people find a metaphor within.

And I find the comparison of hunting to letting two dogs murder each other is inconsequential. And further, I doubt the validity of the symbolic ritual argument. It's a way for idiots to kill time and fulfill their bloodlust.

 

Dogs are only as smart as their owners.

Shit, my dogs have faught pretty intense but always stop before shit gets ugly.

 

fulfilling bloodlust is a valid problem for people to address.

 

Perhaps. Let them man up and box then, instead of murdering dogs breed to fight and which will murder any small creature such as children if they escape.

That doesn't validate it at all.

 

Let's use some brain cells here. Not only is dogfighting cruel and inhumane, it poses a threat to the public as well as the animals. A pit bull that is trained to attack is more likely to attack people (especially children) and other dogs. So that's another side to it. But how can anyone use the treatment of cows to justify dogfighting? That's just beyond stupidity. First off all, I don't think anyone with a conscience, who has witnessed the treatment of factory farm cows, condones such treatment. At the same time cows are very different from dogs. Dogs are fully domesticated animals bred largely as companions to humans. Cows are bred for food and milk.

 

Furthermore, I only condone the quick death of animals used for food. I find bullfighting about as gruesome as dogfighting, so that argument doesn't hold weight.