Right...here's the thing...

Ok, physicly I'm male, attracted to girls. But I think I may be pyschologicly both male and female.

Now, I have no desire to change to female, but I do identify with female as well as male.

So, I looked into the TG portal of wikipedia (brilliant for finding identifying terms) and I found Bigender, which means...

But I still am not sure on this so I jut personally label myself genderqueer as I don't really know another label...

As there any others like me?

 

Although I am still exploring the extent of my fluid, blended gender, my gender identity is "femme." I am genderqueer/of a third gender, and have some masculine tendencies; but, for the most part, I'm a high femme... as girly as they come.

I'm attracted to masculinity/maleness in a congenital female body, therefore I describe my orientation as that of transensual queer; my current partner feels as though hy may be bigendered, which I can see.

I can also be medically defined as a transsexual; I identify with the female sex and am pursuing transition... but, I don't identify with the term "trans."

So, no, you're not entirely alone... I know someone who is more or less just like you.

 

yeah, i feel exactly as you do. theres times im totally a guy and other times im totally a girl. its bizzare and kinda unsettling, emotionally that is. but more often then not i think its fun

 

Hi

I have similar feelings, i sometimes try to repress one side, so that i say okey im just male or just female, but thats allways repressing and i have decided i dont want to repress myself.

I researched the topic of transsexuality, but there was allways a talk about operation, i dont want to be operated, so i thought oh no, i cant be a transsexual. MMy body is Female and i wanna stay that way otherwise i could never change back, a changeable body would be great.

Hugs Salivrah

 

oh neat, now theres a bunch of people...erm...a bunch as in three haha. so heres my question:

where do you think we fit in this transexual/transgender community? and i mean at large, not this forum.

ive just always said "transgender" because its an umbrella term even tho people usually think i mean transexual. eh, terminology can get stuffy with me so i just say im far too fabulous for either gender.....even if i would be stealing a line from "to wong foo..." =)

 

I have a friend who identifies as bigendered, (he is anatomically a male...) and my partner is currently exploring the possibility that hy is bigendered. (Which, I could definately see...) Hy (my partner) has said that hy would undergo SRS if it was more successful, (Hy is anatomically female.) but hy is definately considering breast reductive surgery; hy isn't sure if hy would want flat-out top surgery... T has also been an option hy has considered.

As for my gender fluidity and how I relate to the trans community... well, I'm genderqueer; what other community can I truly relate to in terms of my gender? I mean, I can relate to females/women, but I'm a different kind... if I took the time to explain who I am to someone who only knew of the gender binary, they would most likely be utterly perplexed and wouldn't see me as a true sister.

Hell, I have faced this kind of rejection within the trans community; some of those whom I would expect to be understanding have cut me off from them out of contempt... there are others who try way too hard to fit themselves into the box that society has defined for them in terms of their gender.

 

Yeah, being able to change sex at will would be awesome.

Thing is, the reason I don't want to change sex is because I identify as both male and female genderwise.

To were bi-gendered people fit in with the tg crowd...I dunno...Both male and female genderwise with no desire to change.

 

I really cant understand why anyone who suffers with gender dysphoria would reject someone like you. Its true, i dont understand where you are coming from (as i totally identify myself as female), but i certainly wouldnt have a problem with you, or anyone else who feels a similar way. Maybe why so many in the TS (have to use that term even though i loath it) community feel anger towards people that are like you, is because of the myths and stupidity that a lot of people direct at people that are genuinely trapped in the wrong body. Like a lot ignorant people would class me in the same category, or people that have some gender issues, but are quite happy with the body they were born with.

But that is the fault of ignorant, bigoted people. Not people like you. So i certainly have no problem with people who feel they are "inbetween" genders, though i do think in most cases where you have been rejected by TS people, its probably due to anger because of the things ive just mentioned. Mainly prejudice.

 

Because they don't want there to be a grey area... they want things to be black and white: male and female, feminine and masculine... Some actually try really hard to fit themselves into "either" box; some blame people like me for the adversity they encounter. (I'm actually hyper-feminine for the most part...)

Allow me to clarify my identity: I identify with the female sex, but not the female gender. (Or, at least, in the stereotypical sense... I'm a different kind of woman.) Heh, I dislike that term as well; I've always thought of myself as a female... (I wish that I could have either been born a female in body, or a male in mind... being in limbo isn't easy.)

 

I think the part where you say some people blame people like you for the adversity they encounter...i can understand that to a limited extent. Because there are people like you, that dont identify completely as either gender, it makes stupid ill educated people think that's the way that people like me are as well. Though as i say, that is the fault of the ill eduacted people NOT someone like you. But some probably take their anger out on you, which is unfair. Even though i can see where its coming from, i think in those cases the anger is misguided.

I do believe there are "grey areas" where gender is concerned, and people who fall into that category, are just as "valid" as people that totally identify with a specific gender. The last part, i am totally in agreement with you on. Ive always loathed terms like "Transgender" and the like, i feel they are more for the use of "normal" people that dont understand certain things, and wish to place labels on people and put them in little boxes. Ive always identified myself as simply female. Lots of people wouldnt accept that though, hence why those other labelling terms are used. And i am with you totally...i really wish i could have been born with a normal female body to match my mind. Or even a male mind to match the body i have. Living with this is absolute agony at times, and mostly i do loath myself even though i know i cant help how i was born. I just wish i could have a mind and body that matched up for one day, just so i would know what it was like. All ive ever wanted is to live a normal life, and to be seen as just an ordinary person. Unfortunately with this condition, that just isnt possible.

 

I'm male and identify myself as female (most of the time).Sometimes male though,I identify more with feminine traits than male I have no real problem with my body except for wondering and fantasizing about being a woman(sometimes alot),I have no real problem being with either sex though.I'd would'nt go for an operation cause I do relate to the male side too.i like to think of it as the best of both worlds.I don't like the termonology cause i don't feel it's accurate for me so I'd just say I'm bisexual and leave it at that without a big explaination.I'd probably be misinterperted anyway.Actually I have'nt got into it with anyone and noone really knows the truth.It's human nature to label everything trying to make things neat and simple,nothings black and white as people make it out to be.I don't come to this forum to much since I don't always identify.I wish there was a sub-forum for people like us.
I really identify with you shedtroll.

shedtroll Quote:Ok, physicly I'm male, attracted to girls. But I think I may be pyschologicly both male and female.

Now, I have no desire to change to female, but I do identify with female as well as male.

So, I looked into the TG portal of wikipedia (brilliant for finding identifying terms) and I found Bigender, which means...


...a tendency to move between masculine and feminine gender-typed behaviour depending on context, expressing a distinctly "en femme" persona and a distinctly "en homme" persona, feminine and masculine respectively. It is a subset of transgender.



But I still am not sure on this so I jut personally label myself genderqueer as I don't really know another label...

As there any others like me?End Quote.

J*-It's confusing and frustrating so I try not to bother with labels at all.I'm very secretive about my transgender issues as well.Besides I don't like labels anyway.What does it matter just be you.Labels are created for simple closed minded people so they can *think they understand (when really they don't).I don't think you can truly understand unless you've been there.The hell with labels,Be free,be you. J*