does it REALLY bother you that our (USA) image has been ruined?

I passionately hate religious orthodox anything, especially Jews.

Those religious orthodox Jews are a big part of the problem in Israel.

Hey Matt, would you like to let some Israelis live in your house in America? I'm sure that they'll welcome the proposition!

 

What land grabbing?

 

Somehow I knew you were going to say that.

Please give me a reference or argument claiming Israel's border is NOT expanding. I'm willing to listen.

Because the opposite is mainstream news.

 

I suppose you think the bulldozing of Palestinian homes is made up, too?

Don't get me wrong, Pavel. I like you. I know you're a smart and overall good guy, but c'mon now. Are you really THAT far out of the loop here??

 

Expanding?

Where the hell can it expand?

Unless you think that we're grabing too much water out of the bloody ocean.

 

I'm all about the bulldozing of terrorist homes. I think that it's disgusting that the Israeli government allowed the family of the guy who shot those kids in Jerusalem to have a funeral.

 

I must confess that in the Hezbolla vs Isreal conflict, i was cheering for Hezbollah. They got the shit end of the stick in all that.

 

So you think Israel is ONLY bulldozing terrorist homes.

Or maybe that ALL Palestinians are terrorists by definition.

Ok. That settles it.

 

"Cheering for Hezbollah"?

This ain't a fucken football game. It's people's lives we're talking about.

Wanker.

 

The policy of the Israeli army is only to bulldoze terrorist homes.

As I've said before, I do not agree with all of the tactics and actions of the Israeli army. I'm positive that they've bulldozed a couple of homes that they shouldn't have, and I'm not saying that it's a good thing... so don't put words in my mouth.

 

A couple, huh? K.

Do you find it funny that settlements are being built on top of those "couple" homes?

 

What settlements?

Believe me, all the Israeli government really wants is to get people the fuck away from the territories.

All the people who live around Gaza and the West Bank are orthodox Jews who refuse to move, and therefore create conflict.

Israel doesn't need to expand its boarders, there is really no reason for it. History shows that Israel willingly gives land away for PEACE.

 

And they also steal it, for peace. amongst themselves.

 

What settlements?

I seem to have seen a map the New York Times has published about 100 times last year.

It was full of dots standing for new settlements being built in formerly Palestinian territories by date.

Unless you have a reference that tells me otherwise, our discussion is over.

I'm not concerned about what governments "want." I'm concerned about what they do.

 

Yeah, they bulldozed Rachel Corrie out of love and peace, ya know??

Guess she was a terrorist, too.

 

No, it does not bother me that the image of the US has been ruined.

 

Matt, trying to appeal to people's sympathy through a singled out story is something the mainstream news sources you tend to criticize often do.

I'm not gonna have a google war with you.

Israel only took territory away from Palestine in wars.

 

Cause you're not American..Duh.

 

Don't make me break your wooden shoes.

I dunno about the whole Israeli Palestinian conflict. I don't particularly see either side as having moral high ground. I believe in a one state solution technically. But that's a lot to go into. I don't think a two state solution would ever work because of geography and history.

 

Yeah, that might have something to do with it.