BloodBan.co.uk - Allow gay men to be blood donors!

Hello,

You probably already know that gay men in the UK (and in many other countries) cannot give blood.

After 5 years of writing to the NHS here in the UK but getting nowhere, I have decided to launch this new petition to present to the NHS and the government later this year. The campaign has already been featured on the BBC and the NHS are now starting to take notice.

Please help by signing the petition at http://www.bloodban.co.uk

Other countries including Australia, France and Russia allow gay blood (the bizarre thing is that the UK imports blood from Australia as it's so low on stocks - therefore the UK doesn't seem to mind gay blood, as long as it's Australian and not British!)

If you have time, please also write to the NHS or to your country's health service - the more that people complain, the sooner this out of date policy will change.

Thanks for your support.

BloodBan.co.uk

 

what a crap petition - next you will be wanting people with hepatitis to give blood -
That is bullshit anyway as in the UK there is no way of knowing who is gay unless they ask you to suck their cock
theres no gov't register of it so why should I feel bad anyway if they dont allow someone to give blood that likes driving his BMX up the crevice of Ben Nevis?

 

you really are an idiot, Rah!
just because someone is gay doesn't mean they have HIV/AIDs for fuck sake.

 

did i say they did ?

 

you're most certainly implying it, as hepititis is a transferrable disease. that is, unless you are saying that having gay male blood might make you gay, the same way you would get hepititis.

 

you are taking one sentence out of context. Do you work for The Sun newspaper ? my reply was an ironic one in favour of gay men being allowed to give blood. maybe i should have just said - fuck off you **** gay men can dick who they want and give blood what the fuck does it matter its the original poster who is against gay people if you read it properly

infact there is no such ban in the uk the OP is talking bollocks and getting away with it - exactly how could such a ban be enforced ?
If people who like to hike up chuff mountain really want to give blood all they have to do is say "I am hetero and have never forced Bruce Wayne into the batcave"

 

Yes, it is one of the questions. If you answer positively, then you are thanked for your time.

It's vitally important people do not lie on the other 28 questions for donating blood, so why should people be encouraged to lie for that question? Why should it be an issue if they are gay or not? You can not even donate blood as a woman, if you've had sex with a man who has had gay sex in the past 12 months, even if it was with a condom.

How could you say that's not a ban on gay men? Or are you now going to try to argue that if they are celibate it doesn't matter. :tongue:


For anyone interested here's the list of questions that are asked:

oh yes, btw I work for the Sun.

 

Actually its a gay issue and as such isnt really something most people think about. But who would you prefer blood off, someone who puts down that they are a pillar of society and monogamous and likes nothing better than to have a bit of rumpy pumpy with their wife who is utterly monogamous or some guy who states that he likes it up the arse by 3 different men on clapham common every night and blows his beans up the grand canyon on a regular basis with different geezers none of whom he met before ?

Youre ignoring the fact that ghonorhea and syphilis is rife in the gay community and so are several hundred other sexually transmitted diseases
I dont think that just to satisfy the ultra liberal craze of pandering to the sensitivities of some minority group or other we should be compromising on safety - I dont believe you or the Op have any medical qualifications other than a scouts "how to wrap a bandage" badge
so why should I listen to politics rather than scientific sense ?

 

No way! I had no idea they asked about if you were gay or not. Dont rhey just do STI tests as a standard thing...hardly think it matters if youre gay!

 

My assumption would be that this has to do with cost efficiency, ie all blood is screened for HIV etc but a statistically higher proportion of blood donations from people in high risk groups for such diseases will fail these tests making their donation useless and costly. Blood from those countries who do accept "gay" blood and screen it is just as good as any screened blood but those countries absorb the higher cost of accepting blood from high risk groups.

 

Who would YOU rather have blood from? Someone who CLAIMS to be momogamous, but really screws around on business trips, having sex with hookers in hotel rooms or a dedicated gay man who wipes the vomit off of his dying partner's face?

It works both ways.

So test the goddamn blood! They should do it anyway! Gay people can have AIDS- Straight people can have AIDS! Just because one group might tend more toward it than the other doesn't mean they should be labeled an "unclean" group of people.

PS: I had no idea this was going on and I think it's a crock, if you couldn't tell.

 

Well it is as simple as this - you dont have to have the right to give blood. It is not something that counts as a human right so what the fuck has it to do with politics. It's a scientifically based decision on the basis that people who take the pink cadilac up chocolate boullevard are usually not monogamous and every donation of blood is rigorously tested, but why should they waste time and money screening people who are likely to be carriers? Put your soldier unprotected into a gay mans fudge foxhole and your chances of being infected by a sexually transmitted disease escalate through the roof and no matter what any namby pamby politically correct liberal breezes by and disputes it that doesnt alter the fact that the science speaks for itself and by adding
people who like to poke percy into the brown bullet hole they just add more and more cost and waste more time that is the reason and I dont want people adding to the cost of the NHS

 

I'm more worried about CJD than HIV, I hope if I ever get blood its from a lifelong vegetarian...

...can they give blood? ( I guess they can going by your post phoenix indigo)

 

Exactly, if you like to have a lump of beef in your mouth or if you like it up the glory hole then its a waste of resources to to have to triple check your blood

 

:stunned: You have quite the gift for imagery...

Regardless, I disagree with you. Since we disagree on some very basic principles, I believe we've reached an impasse, making it pointless to argue this further. Whatever... If I was on the commitee, I would vote against this ban on the basis that modern science should be advanced enough to check blood from anyone no matter what. Otherwise, what have we to brag about with all our wonderful technology?
But I'm not on the comittee. I'm a struggling 20 year old college student with bigger things on my mind. Sorry people. There's bigger things to debate. Just know I support you, tho I know it doesn't count for much... :leaving:

 

I would vote against this ban on the basis that modern science should be advanced enough to check blood from anyone no matter what. Otherwise, what have we to brag about with all our wonderful technology?

First ya screen 1500 monogamous heterosexuals, people with a blood pass rate of 90% healthy yeah
Ok so now you screen 3000 people yeah - 1/2 of whom like to fuck mens butts ok - so the risk of infected blood is 900% higher - so when you werent screening butt fuckers blood you had a pass rate of 90% but now with gay people who buttfuck adding to the count your blood pass rate drops to 55% so thats
1500 at a pass rate of 90% and 1500 at a passrate of 20%
so the cost to the national health service doubles the price of blood - not acceptable

 

Of course it is a 'Human Right' for a homosexual to donate blood, just like it is a 'right' for you and I. If you want freedom, something which we are all entitled to, then you cannot compromise the freedom of others. There is a huge responsibility with the choices you make, the freedom you choose to embark on, and this is exactly the responsibility you take if you are going to donate blood. You are not going to donate blood without some form of awareness of the Terms and Conditions required to donate in the first place. If you think you may have a STI, then you're not going to be foolish enough to donate blood.

I can sympathise that homosexuals are the most at risk, but official statistics show that it is in fact, heterosexuals that have accounted for much of the rapid rise in the numbers of new HIV diagnoses (4,049 in 2005 compared to 840 in 1996). So any argument against homosexuals donating blood is simply de trop.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=654

 

On the Vegetarian blood donor point. I think there's a chance that we'd be discriminated against because they'd assume we were anemic. Or there wasn't enough protein in our blood. If it wasn't for the fact that I'm pretty sure my blood is too high in Carbon Monoxide to be useful I'd give it (oh and the fact that I'm 2 years to young helps).

It is a stupid rule from a bygone era that is even more ridiculous when they keep complaining that there isn't enough in the way of blood donations. I understand that it's more common amongst gay men, but if they use protection and are still not allowed it's absurd.

 

Let's be honest any gay man can give blood just as easy as any heterosexual man, or be it a woman. The last time I was aware gay men weren't branded with a tattoo proclaiming such a fact, unless it's the pink scarf and lightness in the step that gives it away! When did we all start proclaiming our rights without taking any responsibility for them; (Rhetorical). This isn't a statement to suggest there should be a reason to ban blood donation from people who are gay/lesbian.

Vegetarians? Probably haven't got enough red cells (joke so don't attack!) Vegans' blood must be positively white without the immune protection. (Stop throwing those stones!!!!!)

 

Gay men aren't allowed to donate blood here either. I think it's discriminating. I tried to give blood once, and they wouldn't let ME give blood, becuase I had dated and had sex with a man who had had sex with other men before. I know I'm clean, but they turned me away.
All of the blood is tested, and I don't think it's about wasting money, as they would get a lot more blood, clean blood, if they would just let more people donate.