Stupid.ca

Discussion in 'Protest' started by MaximusXXX, Mar 11, 2008.

  1. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    I'm pretty sure it's only if you live in Ontario or have digital cable with a Canadian Channel for Ontario, Global or CBC.

    But anyway there is an asortment of commercials, pretty much 3 main ones, although they started running last year where there were 2 ads that I never see anymore. Anyway the 3 different ads they show are:

    Indian with antlers in the forrest

    Girl standing with a metal pole during a storm.

    A guy pouring some kind of dish washing liquid into his cereal.

    These all end with " You think THIS is stupid? Smoking kills something like 13,000 people in Ontario every year "

    The commercial ends with a routine political messege " Funded by the Government of Ontario " Which is run by Liberals headed by the ass, Dalton MaGuinty.

    THAT'S OUR TAXES ( Ontario Residents ) PAYING FOR HARRASSMENT!!!

    And if I were a lawyer ( and god willing someday I will be ) I'd sue the Liberal Party of Ontario for Harrassment of individuals who are casual smokers.

    Now I don't some cigarettes, I never smoke em, I smoke fine Cuban Cigars, but regardless it's insulting to every person who chooses to smoke.

    Where's all the adds of fatties walking around slugishly about to die? Huh??

    I remember there was one ad against obesity where a woman comes out and puts a red sheet to dry out, the red suppose to represent blood pressure caused by obesity.

    That was it and it doesn't show anymore.

    These ads are showing NON FUCKING STOP!! It's annoying me now, literally like 5-10 fucking times every FUCKING HOUR!!!

    For me it's on channels, CBC, Global, Teletoon ( after 10 p.m. ), TV Tropolis and Comedy Channel.

    www.stupid.ca ( Go to TECH ROOM )
     
  2. Kesiah Graves

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    Yes, I'm sure if people went running around in the forest with antlers strapped to there heads, or holding big rods in lighting storms, that the percentage of people dying in those circumstances would be greater...
     
  3. greenryder

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    I haven't seen those in a while. Didn't think they were still on.
     
  4. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    What channel do you watch??

    I mean they're even on Peach Street TV ( Use to be TBS ) and pretty much most american channels that show in Canada have Canadian commercials.

    I posted this thread because they've been on very very often the past month.
     
  5. Sitka

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    The right to spew annoying adds to morons is constitutionally protected, unfortunately.
     
  6. greenryder

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    Pretty well only CBC, CTV & TSN...Then again I don't pay to much attention to commercials anymore.
     
  7. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    Free Speech is limited though, like in every country, I think the ads are harrassing smokers.

    And I would seriously consider filing a lawsuit.
     
  8. Sitka

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    You'd be wasting your time. There isn't a judge in Canada that would allow this under the Sec. 1 Resonable Limits clause. It would take all of two minutes before it would fail the Oakes test.
     
  9. MikeE

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    Its hard to harass someone who has an OFF button.

    Don't cheapen the word "harassment" by equating it with annoying PSA's (Public Service Announcements).

    Harassment is the guy sitting in his car outside your apartment at 3AM every morning.
    Harassment is phone calls at all hours of the day and night.
    Harassment is a dead kitten on your doorstep.

    If you're going to be a lawyer, I hope they teach you that the law is not there to play word games, conflating nagging TV commercials with terrorizing people. The law is there to protect people and set clear rules for interactions between them. Yep, plenty of lawyers abuse the law. Don't add to their number.

    Be a smart lawyer, not a smart arse.
     
  10. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    Ummm, I may overexagerate at times but I am going to be a lawyer who does everything to get to the top, and if you were to study half the cases I have you'd learn no lawsuit is out of the question.

    People in Canada have gotten sued for cutting a finger of a robber and paid thousands of dollars for it.

    Harassment lawsuits are even more frivolous, I recall one case where a boss got sued by his secretary for telling her, her bra was showing, she got him to settle out of court, however her lawyer proposed a sum of 20 thousand in damages, obviously the settlement details are nevr disclosed but I would assume she got something for nothing.

    Here's the case I would builkd against the Government of Ontario, which would directly be made against The Liberal Party of Ontario.

    The argument would be that the Government/Party used tax payers money to create public interpretation of smoking and the act of smoking as stupid directly proposing that peoples engaging in smoking are intellectually inferior.

    I mean of course I'm giving you a very very basic outline but you get the point right? Is it THAT unbelievable??
     
  11. MikeE

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    I believe you as to the stupid lawsuits filed. Some of them even win.

    So What?!

    Just because some foolish cases are won, doesn't mean that you should be a fool.

    Yes, you can acquire the skills needed to sue to block non-smoking commercials.

    But, do you want to be part of the problem or part of the solution? Its your life and your reputation.

    (You do know the difference between a lawyer and a prostitute, don't you?)
     
  12. Sitka

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    So far, you'll make a shoddy lawyer.

    Even from a non-legal standpoint, the holes in your logic are astounding.

    One girl settled (not won) a frivoulous sexual harrasment case. Therefore, you'd win a case against a freedom of speech case against the Government of Ontario. :rolleys:

    A couple points - just because a case was settled doesn't mean the plaintiff has a bullet-proof case. Other factors, such as time and money, come into play.

    You sue the government of Ontario, not the party.

    You wouldn't get money out of this, because there are no damages. A victory would get the commercial removed.

    Ford vs. Quebec, and Irwin Toy vs. Quebec both affirm that Section 2 B of the Charter apply to advertising.
     
  13. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    Oh my God dude, relax that was just an example, and I'm only finishing my 2nd year at University.

    When it comes to reality there's only a 0.5% I'd actually persue a case like that, and yeah I might not get paid but if I actually won I could get hired by tobbacco companies etc

    Getting to the original point the commercials are grossly offensive, here's the thing, you don't see anti-abortion commercials on tv now do you? No.

    So why the hell are anti-smoking commercials allowed??
     
  14. greenryder

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    I see billboards for anti and pro abortion all the time...IMO that's worse then seeing a commercial, in which I can turn off.
     
  15. Sitka

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    You either know what you're talking about or you don't.

    Because there's only a .5% chance of you getting into law school?

    Well, isn't that moral.

    a) They aren't grossly offensive.
    b) Anti-abortion advertising is legal but
    c) The anti-abortion lobbying groups have nowhere near the anti-tobacco lobbying groups funds, which is why you see one on TV and not the other.

    Law is a fairly douchey career already. Don't make it worse by being a shittier person than necessary.
     
  16. MaximusXXX

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    I agree anti-smoking groups have loads of public funds but all religions are strongly against abortion on demand so I would think they have sufficient funds as well.

    Nah I give myself 20%, mainly because I could change my mind. If I actually follow through on it after finishing 4th year I'd give myself 50/50, it's based on three things you know, the test, your average, and MONEY, lol.

    I intend to be a politician and about 80% of MPs were at one point a type of lawyer, it's just a very good thing to do, become a lawyer, gives you a lotta prep for campaigning.
     
  17. drew172

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    Have you ever noticed that it is youth inn these commmercials?

    The target for the ads is youth, because many tobacco companies target youth themselves in order to gain more smokers at a younger age which in turn will give them more dinero$$$...

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with the government putting these commercials on, however annoying they may be. In the long run, these commercials, if they do their job, will put some people off smoking and therefore save money on healthcare further down the line.
     
  18. drew172

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    And while there may not be a hell of a lot of ads out right now about obesity, you still must have seen at least one of those ads about youth being more active or they will age prematurely, those damn things are everywhere(though I find them kinda amusing).
     
  19. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    Actually, those commercials are horribly innefective.

    Lots of kids don't even get the messege they just think it's funny, it doesn't make em go out and do more exercise.

    The Fast Food Industry, particulairly McDonalds has grown more than ten times profitable in the last 20 years.

    And I don't support health care.

    Here's the thing, lotta people don't like to study history but it teaches us a hell of a lot, and the 50s were a very productive decade, looking back North America has really gone to hell.

    All the parmaceudecal companies are the new tobbacco companies!!!!!!

    People paying out just to live a few more years etc.

    And this health craze and environmental awareness is just adding to this scapegoat of " the big bad products " like smoking and drinking etc.
     

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