Cat Stevens is a Terrorist

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  1. dhs

    dhs Senior Member

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  2. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    I think hes still banned from isreal , the isrealis thought he was giving money to islamic terrorists I think

    I think hes as fake as hell ,I used to be a big fan of cat stevens but when he supported the campaign against salman rushdie I stopped being a fan.

    he wont state is views anymore well he does but it seems to be all soundbites,
    wont answer questions on his website

    one thing I remember reading on his website is how he explained singing again,, he used the haddith of a poet who used poetry as a form of warfare.

    so he sees singing which he still thinks is wrong as a tool to spread islam thats whys hes doing it its a form of propoganda
     
  3. sprout

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    Yeah well whether or not hes' fake I beleive this is a complete crock of shit! Its a fine example of passenger profiling.

    If he was Cat Stevens he'd be on that plane. Obviously they didn't do quite enough research on him. All they saw was that he was Muslim.
     
  4. jonny2mad

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    The isrealis say he gave tens of thousands of dollar to hamas ,he was banned from isreal in the 90s, hamas is a terrorist organisation that supports suicide bombing so hes a supporter of terrorism

    I saw the interviews he gave during the rushdie affair pretty much him and a dr kalim siddiqui where the big players against rushdie.

    hes not a victim, salman rushdie is, the man who was hounded and whose wife left him and has had to live in hiding and fear for 20 years, for writing a book that cat stevens and friends dont like .

    cat stevens is a nazi a smooth talking nazi but a nazi all the same.
    Id never buy his music because with his views you dont know who the hell your funding

    there are lots of innocent muslims I may dislike the religion but I know nice ones cat stevens in my view isnt one of them
     
  5. LickHERish

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    Oh but the "Israelis" never lie, nooo of course not. Gullible easily programmed reactionary!
     
  6. jonny2mad

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    so do muslims :) islamist tool
     
  7. LickHERish

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    But they arent the ones out there labelling people as terrorists to further inflame the paranoid sheep now are they? Once again the reactionistic neocon diversion of "accountability?, but but but look at them over there!!".

    Time for people to focus on OUR leaders' lies, OUR leaders' flagrant criminality, OUR leaders' warmongering for corporate hegemony and proift, and OUR leaders' willfull alliances with known tyrants and abusers of human rights, before pointing the finger elsewhere or labelling any other people "terrorists" for daring to fight for their own self determination in the face of overwhelming military aggression.

    Stop watching Fox News and learn what we are and have long been doing to brutalise nation upon nation for more than half a century. Perhaps then you might actually understand what real terrorism is.
     
  8. jonny2mad

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    Muslims label people terrorists as do the left the terrorist bush, Sharon, Blair, the terrorist state Israel.

    All when there are far worse states and far worse human rights abuses on the side of the people they oppose.



    I’m British I’ve never seen fox news



    if you want to talk about brutalise I saw some great film of a guy having opposite hands and feet cut off from Sudan a couple of days ago, his crime was fighting against Islam. They could have crucified him which is also in the Koran as the punishment for that crime.



    I’ve posted videos of stoning on this site, to me all that seems pretty brutal,

    Cat Stevens would support those types of punishments and they are happening now in Iran
    thats the agenda cat stevens "mr peace train" is working for


    But what do we hear from the left all the time down with bush, down with Israel, down with Blair , yada yada yada

     
  9. saffronfrancisburnet

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    great song and lets say i believe the government will brain wash anyone that believes someone like cat stevens who changed his religion is a terrorist {should go back to school.......}

    how we long to be open minded but this crap really does show who can be brainwashed by this system of redknecks thank you
    beautful album full of love and change whats wrong with that

    love n peace from saff also he has a beautiful voice why try to take that away...............
     
  10. LaughinWillow

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    Just wanted to point out that he later apologized for his comments against Rushdie and said that he made them out of a lack of understanding of Islamic law. For probably 10 years or so, he's been one of the most outspoken Muslims AGAINST all kinds of terrorism and violence, saying that "killing one innocent person is like killing the whole world."
     
  11. jonny2mad

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    Cat Stevens Gives Support To Call for Death of Rushdie By CRAIG R. WHITNEY

    LONDON, May 22 -- The musician known as Cat Stevens said in a British television program to be broadcast next week that rather than go to a demonstration to burn an effigy of the author Salman Rushdie, ''I would have hoped that it'd be the real thing.'' . . . He also said that if Mr. Rushdie turned up at his doorstep looking for help, ''I might ring somebody who might do more damage to him than he would like''

    I'd try to phone the Ayatollah Khomeini and tell him exactly where this man is,'' said Mr. Islam, who watched a preview of the program today and said in an interview that he stood by his comments.

    source -- http://www.nytimes.com/books/99/04/18/specials/rushdie-cat.html



    Cat Stevens wrote:The Koran makes it clear, if someone defames the Prophet, then he must die.


    did he serve any time in jail no , did he get what he wanted pretty much yes.
    satanic verses is still in print after a number of brave people have been murdered, but rushdie has to live in hiding and critics of his lame religion live in fear .

    his agenda is he wants a islamic state where people like rushdie would be killed .
    and if you want me to believe his apology if hes made one, get cat stevens to debate what his real views are with someone who knows something about the religion.
    my ex-muslim friends have challenged him to a debate no answer , he wont allow this sort of discussion on his website why not?

    he wont debate or state his view because it would expose what he really believes
     
  12. LaughinWillow

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    jonny, sure wish you would have posted the YEAR with your article, since the guy has since renounced his previous statements and said that he was speaking from a lack of understanding about Islamic law - he has SINCE been one of the most outspoken advocates for PEACE and renounced all kinds of violence - from extremist Muslims and otherwise.
     
  13. Sera Michele

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    I just read is most recent statement and he still thinks that blasphemy or defaming the prophet mohammed should get a death sentence


    all he says now is that because hes living in a western country without sheria law he has to personally abide with that law regarding rushdie

    now as a muslim is he working towards the day when the government kills people like rushdie yes he is.
    I would imagine rushdie would also be killed in that future state because he is a muslim that became a unrepentant atheist.

    and whether he says hes against terrorism or not now if you can believe what he says wouldnt effect what hes done in the past.

    can rushdie walk the streets now no , are the people killed during the rushdie affair going to come back from the dead no
     
  15. Sera Michele

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    So do you only hold Cat Stevens to this, or is this the same for everyone?
     
  16. jonny2mad

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    well lets say what the isrealis say is true and he did give 10,000s of dollars to hamas which I think is very likely that he did.

    and is actions in the rushdie affair ,
    are we the ones that can forgive him.

    I dont think someone can take part in a witch hunt or fund terrorists and then say Im all for peace now and everything be all right.

    I dont just feel this about cat stevens but I feel more let down by him because at one time he appeared a nice guy
    I think his is a sad story
     
  17. jonny2mad

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    also I think is long term aim sucks .

    so if lets say he said Im sorry what I said about rushdie and supporting terrorism, and I want a world where people dont get killed for writing books,

    I would be more inclined to forgive him if I could.



    but sadly thats not what hes saying
     
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    Jonny: When Yusef was kept out of the country, the only information that was released was that he had "funded terrorist organisations". How come you can be so much more specific than the U.S. government?
     
  19. jonny2mad

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    about the rushdie affair I remember a lot of it

    The giving money to hamas it was reported at the time
    I think cat stevens or yusef islam as he now is said he believed the money was going to help the needy, but he would say that wouldnt he.

    it could be hes really stupid in giving money to terrorists ,or he could support the cause which is a widely supported cause amongst muslims .

    and this is pre sept 11 there is a amount of heat now on western supporters of islamic terrorist groups that wasnt there so much in the past.
     
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