What are the Hippy views on Bullying if you are to get bullied? If I was asked what catergory I would put myself in I would say 'Hippy'. But the on ideal Im not sure on is Bullying and it's really anoying me because Im no a violent person and I would never be a violent person (If someone anoyed me) So I just need some advise. "When the rich wage war, It's the poor who die." - Jean - Paul Sartre.
I know how you mean. I'd class myself as a hippy sort of person in many ways, and I've been picked on before when I was younger, not constantly, and not severely, but it was annoying. There are several ways out of these sorts of situations, but you will probably feel quite alone in the middle of it all. One way is to surround yourself with friends, people who can support you, make you feel good about yourself. Bullys only do what they do to make you feel low. If you can show yourself to be a stronger person, mentally, not necessarily physically, then they may back away. Do things that make you feel good, gain some confidence in yourself and your actions. Going to teachers very rarely works. I know they try, but largely they don't have a clue what to do and anything they do do often makes things worse I've found. Talk to friends, they're much more helpful when you're in any sort of problem. Your decision not to use violence is a very pure one. But it's not always practical I feel. I class myself as a pacifist, but I do recognise situations where it's very hard to avoid using violence (although I haven't actually had any sort of violent confrontation in years). You may feel guilty for it, or that morally you were wrong to do so, but that's part of the consequences of using violence, and they must be understood. Sometimes there are only two paths before you, and both seem wrong. In those cases all you can do is choose the least bad path....
Speaking as a complete lay person on the subject, I perceive bullies as being one of two types of people: those that are bullied themselve by their family or those that aren't set any bounderies. The first group are behaving how they've been shown to behave, and the second group just keep pushing and pushing until someone makes them stop. It's a little more complicated than that but I'm not here to write an essay! In both cases usually standing up to a bully will make them think twice about bullying you next time. This could be verbally or physically but whichever way you need to believe in your own strength. I don't think being a 'hippy' is necessarily about non-violence all the time, I hate violence and yet I feel the same as Peace Phoenix in that sometimes it is necessary. If you could punch someone once and put an end to weeks/months/years of bullying is that not worth it? Sometimes people need to learn that they can't behave in particular ways. In the wild, animals will cuff their young to teach them that what they're doing is wrong. You don't illustrate your position. Are you being bullied yourself? Bullies tend to find 'victims', those that have low self-esteem, they can sense it. Body posture is a big indicator of how someone sees themself - head down with rounded shoulders is a dead giveaway.........if you are being bullied you perhaps need to work on you own self confidence. Martial Arts of any kind can be great for that, it teaches you how to hold yourself and it's not even about violence (my karate teacher always taught that the best thing to do in a fight is to walk away) once people see a change in you, it'll start to confuse them. Keep us posted anyways
my advice dont feel guilty your not the wrong party, this kind of thinking I blame on christianity and all this turn the other cheek nonsense. my advice think viking you havnt started trouble the other person is in the wrong, wack them learn to fight . This will discourage them from bullying other people I got bullied for a while when younger and christian, then after giving it much thought decided that turn the other cheek doesnt work better to give bully a good hiding. if you like scream at them throw stuff but dont put up with abuse practise growling and thinking like wild animal oh tin of creamed rice is often very useful in tight spot
Thanks that's really opened up what I should do. I didn't nessaceliry mean that being a Hippy is not being violent I just didn't want to go around beating up or punching anyone. You've all got really good advise because it seems they're all anicdotal, so you'd understand better and as well it's not that same old advise of "Just ignore them, blah blah blah blah". Im glad I actually get to talk to some people that truely understand. Thanks. "When the rich wage war, It's the poor who die." - Jean - Paul Sartre.
You're very welcome. Bullying is such a common phenomenon in so many walks of life, infact I think 1 in 3 people experience bullying in the work place from employers and other colleagues which is incredibly high! You have to remember that it's not you with the problem but you also have to work on yourself, build up your confidence and not let yourself stay in a 'victim' role because that kinda stuff sticks through adult life (not sure how old you are sorry!:&) Above all else, just remember that if you need to vent or talk the forum is always open and don't feel that you can't write to your hearts content!
you tell me where they are and when i come past i will go with you and kick some saa for you. Being a pacifist is all good and well but in life/nature call it whatr you will you need to be able to stand up to those who wanna knock you down. just pm dude if you want some help
i have .. still pop in accasionally .. and well ... the dude is being bullied what you epect me to do oh and will be down your way again real soon .. keep coing and not saying hello to you guys .. shit
Thanks. Im 15 coming up to 16 by the way. Got my National Insurance Number yesturday.YAY. I always come here to talk about stuff like this because everyone understands more which this is a clear example. Thanks. "When the rich wage war, It's the poor who die." - Jean - Paul Sartre.
:$ fuckin' arseholes one of, if not my biggest hate, is bullies. i got bullied pretty bad from year 7-11, and though i never fought back, that's because i could put up with it, but if anyone started/starts on a friend i become defensive..though i try and have managed not to hurt anyone in many years
Between the ages of 13 and 15 I was picked on regularly by this girl at my school. We'd have verbal spats every so often, other times I'd just try to ignore her but it was only a temporary solution. One day we were doing this science project outside and just my luck, I was put in her group. She started dissing me, calling me names etc and I kicked her several times, once in the groin (though that was accidental). I'd just had enough and I simply lost my temper. Although I got into quite a bit of trouble at the time this girl never messed with me again. Infact we kinda became friendly. I'm not a violent person now and certainly wasn't back then but the stupid bitch pushed me over the edge and something inside me snapped and to this very day at the age of 25 I have no regrets about what I did. If anything it was the best thing I ever did! I'm not saying that you should go and beat up anyone or everyone who upsets you, but as far as I'm concerned if you are being bullied and you've tried everything, whether it's confronting and trying to reason with the bully, to surrounding yourself with nice people or telling a teacher and nothing whatsoever has worked, then as far as I'm concerned the bully is truly an arsehole who's out to make your life a misery and have you suffer, as if you're not suffering enough already. So in my view you've got the perfect reason to hit them just as long as it's the last resort. They need to be taught a lesson. If you don't then it's just a matter of time before someone else will.
I know Peace says that talking to teachers is a waste of time but I disput that... they have to know this is happening... yes, their hands are tied by legal processes but most teachers utterly despise bullies and will do everything they can to stop it... Fly...
