again, suicide

Ive been depressed for a long time. I dealt with it most of my childhood, then it went away for a year or two. But lately, I just dont want to live. Today at school, I was looking through a book that was laying on the table, something about teens, and it talked about suicide and it showed some symptoms of someone who might try to committ suicide. I got 9 out of 10. It was so strange. I read one and thought it was me, then the next, then the next and realised Im going to end up dead. The one symptom I didnt have was one saying, "the teen may start to give away personal belongings as a way to 'take care of things'" To me, that doesnt sound like it really matters, so I guess I got 10 out of 10. Ive been thinking alot lately. I never want to do anything and Im about to get a car, a job and I dont even like school. I keep thinking that if I cant even deal with school, how am I supposed to get a job and take care of myself? I wont be able to. Ive lost friends, and happiness. Ive had thoughts about ending it all lately. Just take all the pain away like that. It would be so much easier than to try and find what makes me happy. I see me doing it a months. I think the only thing thats kept me from it is trying to find something to live for. And I havent.

 

If I had to grow up in Alabama, I'd be depressed too.

Wait a minute! I DID grow up in Alabama.

I survived it, so can you.

Ever hear the old saying God helps those who help themselves? I have found it to be quite true. Unless your name is Oscar Meyer, don't be a weiner. Make some effort instead of looking for the exit door.

Don't walk out before the movie ends.



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Hey dude. If you want something to live for, I mean, I dunno.

My friend tried to kill himself and ended up hospitalized and kept away from razors and all that. It freaked me out so much, cause I couldn't get in contact with him. I still don't see him that often(that happened two years ago) but I guess there's a bunch of reasons behind that.

So please hang on till you do find something, and for now just think about others and how much your friends care about you.

 

man I used to have thoughts of suicide. The only thing I can say about it is that eventually life will get better. I don't know what your homelife is like but if your parents are nice to you (an' by nice I mean aren't tryin' to A: Murder you B: Kick you out C: Molest you, or D: Tell you they hate you) then you should at least try an' live for them. Hell if nothin' else live for yourself. Trust me man it'll get better.

 

hmm im clinically depressed as well and although i dont think i have it as bad as you right now i guess i can understand somewhat how you feel

although stuff sucks and you feel liek theres no point (ive been there before too) if you give up then your just giving up
even though you dont feel like your important or even that you are making any impact on the world you are important and giving up would just cut your life short from possibly having better times in the future

i dono for me it comes and goes and stuff and i think you should tell someone you trust how you feel
that always helps i guess

 

Suicide is the most selfish thing one could ever do in their lives.

There are people out there that love and care about you. You have at least one parent right? I bet they would be basketcases if you died...any cousins? Brothers and sisters? Think of how they would feel...

If you don't feel like you have anything to live for, look around you, put yourself in their shoes...how would you feel?

 

my parents are peices of shit. my sister is the "better" one. they mix me up with her all the time. but they dont do the same in return to her. they pick favorites. my friends notice it and even my relatives. they wouldnt care. fuck, as a matter of fact my dad would say, "well at least we'll cut down on bills and groceries" literaly. Nobody would care.

And you think suicide is the most selfish thing someone can do, I tell you what. Go get depressed and know all the things I do about your family. Then you can get back on here and tell me the same thing. I know you had a friend who went through this. But you know what? YOU are the one thats fucking selfish. Your bitching about what you felt like afterward, like its all about you. But you dont know shit what they went through. Get this through your head quickly, nobody is supposed to try and please you. and those thoughts that you have on the whole subjet is what makes you a hypocrit.

Im not trying to be rude here but fuck someone telling me that I'M selfish.

 

One of the hardest things to see, is how other people see you.

While they may have problems of their own, your own attitude can have an effect on them as well.

I sympathize with your situation, but you really have no idea the devastating effect suicide has on the family that has to continue living afterward. That IS selfish.

You need to seek help before you go any further. You can try to petition a judge for emancipation if you want out on your own.

Lots of people out there to catch you if you fall, but you have to let them know how bad it is for you first.


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Actually, you don't know anything about me and I honestly don't know where you're getting your information from...so you can say what I want...and I can give you my opinion, because I have the right to do so.

It's obvious you ARE being selfish...all you are thinking about is yourself. Ohhhhhhhh, you're SOOOOOOOOOOOO unhappy. Well...I mean if it's all about you and you don't care about anyone else's feelings, *shrugs* what can I tell you man.

You haven't read a damn thing about me because I haven't posted on here in a while...you have no idea what I went through in my life... All I know is when I was suicidal, I thought about the people I would be hurting if I offed myself...that's what kept me alive. I CARE about people. I CARE about their feelings...if you don't care about others, then not only are you selfish, but apathetic, cynical, and negative too.

Not sure where I am the hypocrite here...

 

I hate when people say that suicide is the most selfish thing someone could do.

But hey man, just think about what you can do. Have you ever gotten laid? Gotten in a fight? Smashed a guitar?

I mean, I don't want you to kill yourself, but just realize you don't have to do anything. You can do whatever you want. Who gives a fuck about your parents anyway, if thats really how they feel? It's your friends, the ones you picked and you choose to hang out with, that care about you, and you probably care about them. I have absolutely no idea what your going through, but hang on bra.

 

Well, that sucks man.

I really recommend you get professional help; it isn't natural to feel the way you do. Speak to a counsellor, or therapist. It will help.

If I were in your shoes, I would lay off the bong, at least for a while. Take a month off and let your head clear out. Also, excercise for at least an hour a day.

Between those two things, you'd be suprised how much better you'll feel.

 

Lets be honest, Suicide is not selfish. Suicide would be robbing yourself of the oppertunities we all have in this beautiful life. I don't see how that is selfish. And I know that whoever said that would not have said it if they didn't think it would be helpful. Im sure it was said with a good intent, but I really don't think it is helpful.

I will just say that I too have suffered from thoughts of suicide, and my friends and family probably are what kept me from ever acting on any of my thoughts. But I understand it is very hard to be sympathetic for others when you are feeling so empty yourself.

I see that your name is cheech and chong. I have to tell you bro, If you smoke weed, I wish you would stop. If you are depressed, that is not going to help you at all. Please just try to stop and maybe exercise a bit and just see how you feel. Just try doing everything "right" for a month, just to test out your mind and body? Just to see how you feel. I bet you'll feel better.

Wow the poster above me just said the same thing basically..Well, in that case, I second what he said. Definitely. Just give it a shot bro.

And It also might help just to talk to someone who can help. A counselor or anything like that. There are people that care and want to help you and I hope you let them.

Ill be pulling for you bro. Believe me, Im glad I never acted on those thoughts. So many wonderful things have happened in my life that I NEVER would have imagined could happen to me back when I was really depressed. Get healthy man. Do it for yourself. You're worth it.

 

spoken clear an' true Motherlovebone. She's right man. You really do need to seek counselor help. Some cats that do that stuff really ain't as bad as they sound. Life is worth living even if you don't feel like it is right now. An' when it comes down to it I'm pretty sure you'll be hurtin' a lot of people if you go. Hell you've even got us in it now. Count me in as someone who'll be pullin' for you, man. An' if you ever need to talk you can pm me on my profile. I"ll get back to you if you do soon as I'm on.
Peace man. Don't give up!

 

I started to read all the post but there were alot (I usually try to read all the post before I respond) This I can tell you though When I was 19 I had one of my best friends blow himself away.It haunted me for many many years.The guilt,remorse and so forth.I blamed myself for years,I cried I wondred why I should live.What I could have done,what I *should have done.That pain never went away.Also being in the Mental health system for years I've seen other suicides,abuse,addiction you name it.I was diagnosed with Bi-polar @ 19 also (a long time ago lol).My mood swings can be horrible and I have been hospitalized alot in the past.(I've been free of the hospital along time).I've often been suicidal but never attempted it.This one time I was gonna jump from the tall damn wall to the concrete way below,I planned on dying.Right before I did it I remembered my little brother and how close we've always been and after expiriencing the pain of my friends suicide I could'nt do it.I've never have been suicidal since.There's alot to live for,whether you can see that now or not.The question is what is making you feel this way and what you can do about it.Sounds sorta like you're really into some self pity right now.We've all expirienced that.I'm sure there are things that make you happy,have the courage to find them and enjoy them,for me that's what I live for.Try to pick yourself up (a little at a time).I know what your feeling,it's tough but it's worth it.trust me it is.Find something or someone you can start to believe in and try not to make things worse than they really are.Think about people who love you (even if they're idiots like family can be sometimes)No body's perfect,they're just people.I'm sure there more people who care about you than you want to admit.You're just feeling really down,don't give up.It's ok to feel sad and depressed but let yourself get through it and begin accepting some good in your life even if it's not perfect or exactly what you want.When I'm depressed I don't want to feel better (what for?)but the things that make me happy did'nt change I did.So those things can begin to make me happy again if I let go of control and allow it.Don't be afraid to be yourself and be happy.Let yourself be happy,my problem has always been allowing happiness in my life,maybe in some ways I feel like I don't deserve it.Things did'nt turn out the way I've wanted,instead they're pretty screwed up.Many people are in that position.down.I know it's not only me.I try to go with the flow and laugh alot.I'll never be in mainstream society lol I'm on the blacklist forever and I don't really care."Normal" is way over rated and not quite so normal after all.Everyone's got problems.Try letting the walls down a little at a time you maybe surprised life's not so bad.
Good luck it will get better if you let it.

 

The fact that you've posted a thread here in the first place is a good sign that you want help, but sometimes you have to work for it. There's nothing anyone can say that will suddenly make everything better, it has to come from you, and you have to want to make a change.

If you feel you can then try and get some professional help, I'm not saying they'll wave a magic wand and make it all go away, I'm not saying you'll find the right person first time [so far I'm on 5 years with as many "professionals"] but you obviously know there's something not right within yourself so keep pushing.

You were looking in some book, try looking in a self-help book, personally stuff by Dorothy Rowe makes sense to me but there's plenty of stuff out there. Head down to your local book shop or library and see what you can find, it might just open up your mind a bit and help you understand why you're feeling like you do.

Let's face it, it would be easier for all of us to just stop living. But I know, everything seems to take so much more effort.

I'm so sorry, I was gonna say way more but my concentration has just gone kapput. I actually can't spend more than about 20 minutes on one subject and I've taken about 30 trying to get what I wrote so far to sound right. Hope it might make some sense?

 

find a reason to exist

 

Suicide is a really selfish thing to do, think about it, there has to be at least one person that cares about you, probally more but your most likely a emo kid and think everyone hates you. If you kill yourself you will probally make all the people that care about you feel like you do now. Im not trying to be a douche or anything (though people will probally say I am one). Just try to get some help, and don't kill yourself, things will get better eventually.

 

Suicide is a really selfish thing to do, think about it, there has to be at least one person that cares about you, probally more but your most likely a emo kid and think everyone hates you. If you kill yourself you will probally make all the people that care about you feel like you do now. Im not trying to be a douche or anything (though people will probally say I am one). Just try to get some help, and don't kill yourself, things will get better eventually. And that thing you said about your parents not caring and stuff like that is bullshit. They care about you, all kids think their parents are unfair and wouldn't care about them if they were dead.

 

Hang in there man,

suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

who knows, maybe next week you'll meet the love of your life, you never know. Depression for me comes in waves. I'm sure if you hang in there things will brighten up.

 

Im not a fuckin emo kid. I hate those people. and my parents hating me isnt bullshit. you know its funny, my own grandmother notices it. my uncle notices it. my aunt notices it. they've told me that my parents are picking the "better" child. and theyre basing it on which one of us is more popular, which one acts normal, ect. Its fuckin pathedic. Now you say that all kids think their parents hate them, but I know for a fact mine do, thanks to my relatives telling me. So got anymore advice?