Is Obama Owned by Zionists?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by xexon, Mar 2, 2008.

  1. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    I was made aware of some disturbing facts about Obama today.

    Turns out, he got to where he is with help from a family called Pritzker. This family is rather notorious. Zionist jews. Hardcore zionist jews.

    The question here is will he remain loyal to them if he becomes president, or will he revolt like JFK did and suffer the same fate? I would like to think that Obama would actually listen to the people, but now I have doubts.

    Here's a few links. Read all about it.

    http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/688

    http://judicial-inc.biz/O..Bama..AIPAC.htm

    http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.com/2008/02/zionist-corporate-chieftain-knights.html


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  2. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    He's owned by the elite -- he's a member of the CFR, he's backed by Rockefeller money, and he is being advised by Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski. No need to get into whether he's owned by the Zionists or the Jesuits or the Hurdy Gurdy Man. It's all one and the same when you follow the money to the top.

    There is no doubt Obama is part of the zionist cabal, but what president hasn't been? You can pretty much guarantee that any candidate being pushed like Obama is by the corporate media, is going to support the imperialistic neocon/zionist agenda in the Middle East. Obama has already talked about going after Pakistan.

    And like I said before, presidents are just figureheads anyway. It wouldn't matter if it was Obama, Clinton or McCain -- the policies will pretty much remain the same, as they always do.
     
  3. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    I know Obama is advised by Zbigniew Brzezinski. Which is bad enough

    I know McCain is advised by Kissinger. Another CFR/NWO man.

    But is this Kissinger/Obama connection recent? Where does it say that HK advises Obama?

    I just wanted to find out the source, cause I couldn't find it, just to prove to people how much of a sham this all is.
     
  4. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    What exactly makes a person a Zionist, anyway? What is on that particular checklist?

    Apparently Pepik was a Zionist. I'm curious.
     
  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I heard it on a radio program the other day on my shortwave. They were talking about the link connecting the three candidates, and this person (I think it may have been Webster Tarpley... but I could be wrong) was talking about how he had gotten inside word that Kissinger was advising the Obama campaign as well as the McCain campaign. I haven't been able to verify this myself, so it could be bad information.

    It's definitely a fact that Brzezinski is advising the Obama campaign, though, and is receiving support from the Rockefellers.
     
  6. InfernoMunky

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    my dads a princton alumni too.... ... so if obamas bad ill get my dad to knife him at one of their alumni parades......... DEAL ?
     
  7. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    There are two kinds of zionists.

    The first is the religious kind which sees Israel as the ancestral home of the jewish people. They wish to live there for the brotherhood of it. No problem.

    The second is a politcal movement which hides behind the first kind of zionist.

    These people are intent on world domination with a one world government. The New World Order and the Iraq war are their babies. They are THICK in Washington, and shadow just about every representitive on the hill.

    They control not only the direction of Israel but also the United States, which is their enforcement arm. Neocons answer to them and no other.

    Not since the Nazis has there been a greater threat.

    Oh, and they had ties to them too.



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  8. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Careful friend.

    That kind of threat is taken very very seriously by the secret service.



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  9. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    A Zionist is simply anyone who supports the state of Israel... especially someone who believes in providing Israel with financial and military support (which is then used unjustly against Israel's neighbors and Palestinian settlers). It has nothing to do with being Jewish, as many orthodox Jews are strongly opposed to the state of Israel, which they believe goes against their religion and has been the cause of so much violence and death (which it has) on both sides.

    If one looks into the history of Israel and the people that were behind its creation (primarily the Rothschild family), they see it has nothing to do with a homeland for the Jewish people, but rather a way of creating a strategic base that would be used to eventually conquer the entire Middle East. The Jewish people living in Israel are really being used as cannon fodder, as they are the ones receiving the brunt of outside attacks. It's these attacks, which can be directly attributed to Zionism's role in the Middle East, which is then used as the jusitification for more violence against Muslims and the takeover of more Palestinian land and the destruction of Palestinian settlements.

    Ever heard of Rachel Corrie, who was run over with an Israeli bulldozer protesting the destruction of Palestinian people's homes by the state of Israel?

    We don't hear much about Israel's atrocities in the media, so its easy for people to think the Israelis are the good guys and the Palestinians are the bad guys. It isn't that way at all. Now I am not condoning either side, but I also understand that much of the violence against Israel is the result of provocation.
     
  10. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    I support the state of Israel. Does that make me a Zionist?

    I'm sorry, but I have always understood the term Zionist to be used in reference to a Jewish nationalist movement advocating establishment of a Jewish nation-state - to which I am in favour of.

    Does this make me a Zionist?
     
  11. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Yeah, but what you're missing is that Zionism is just one small piece of the puzzle. The globalists operate under many fronts. So I disagree with this notion that the neocons answer to the zionists. The neocons answer to the same people the zionists answer to, which is the big money interests that virtually own and run the global economy and entire nations. It's the big banks and their elite owners... the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, the Morgans, the Warburgs, the Carnegies etc., in tandem with the old nobility of Europe -- very old and powerful families that many people have probably never even heard of.

    When you start blaming "the Jews" or "the Zionists," or whatever, you are not only leaving yourself open to being attacked and belittled, but you're showing you don't have a good grasp on the power structure and how it's run. That's just my 2 cents.
     
  12. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Maybe in a very loose sense of the word, but I wouldn't say you're a "zionist" per se.

    You might have heard of Zionism used in reference to a Jewish nationalist movement, but there are plenty of neoconservatives who are non-Jews, who completely support the furthering of Zionism for their own murderous agenda. The neoconservatives are in bed with what some might call "the zionists," which in this context is the ruling and military arm of the Israeli government. The two are really interchangable, as both believe in Western hegemony over the Middle East and its people.

    I personally don't care much for the term "zionist" because it tends to be misleading.

    There are many people who could technically be considered "zionists," who are good people and support the state of Israel. But unfortunately they've been duped and/or severly misinformed. The people who established the state of Israel could not have cared less about the Jewish people, who they knew would become cannon fodder, which would then be used to further the imperialistic cause which the neocons are fulfilling today.
     
  13. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    I have heard of Rachel Corrie. In fact, I've heard about hundreds of innocent victims of the violence involved in the Gaza Strip from both sides of the debate. Don't get me wrong, I'm strongly in favour of a Palestinian state. But that's not what I am concerned with.

    It's the use of the word "Zionism" to refer to a global world elite attempting to dominate and conquer the world.

    You explained your sentiments clearly in your last post, Pressed_Rat, and I agree that it is mule-headed to accuse a Zionist group to be the cause of a globalist economy and blame them.

    I just think the whole "International Jewish Conspiracy" myth has a lot to do with all the propanganda that the czarist secret police were encouraging and promoting such strong anti-Semitic attitudes in Russia. Hitler was hooked on that stuff, and so it's no wonder the idea spread like wild fire with so much censorship and control going on with big brother and thought police breathing down your neck if you weren't busy hating on Jews.
     
  14. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Well, I suppose my biggest problem is the actual use of the word itself to be used as some kind of global conspiracy centered around Jewish culture. To me it smells of a filthy layer of molten Commie lies used to make Jews out to be a stateless nation with a holier than thou attitude that deserves to be conquered if only to defeat the nationalism factor of the equation.
     
  15. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    But you see, I never associated it with a global conspiracy (Zionism, that is).

    (I don't even pay attention to the word, though I admit I do use it sometimes for lack of a better word. I pretty much use it in the same context that I use the word neocon, which many have also claimed is anti-Semitic.)

    You're getting what I said mixed up with what someone else said. That's why I don't like the word zionism, and the only reason I am referring to it now is because I am trying to speak in light of this thread. There are really no zionists when you really think about it. There are simply misinformed people, and it's these people who are often used by people who have a much different agenda than what those at the bottom of the ladder believe. Unlike another poster, I don't believe Zionists control anything, anymore than the Democrats and Republicans control anything. It's the people who control these groups, and everyone likes to point the finger at one group, blind to the fact it's all the same few people at the top, who use these operational fronts so people will point the finger and think it's "this group" or "that group." They will never see the man behind the curtain because they're being mislead with smoke and mirrors.

    And there is nothing anti-Semetic about speaking out against Israel. That's like saying if you criticise Israel or its policies, you're somehow anti-Semetic. This is often used by the very people who are committing such murder in the name of Israel to squelch any reasonable debate.

    Look at what happened recently to Gandhi's grandson for speaking out against the atrocities of the Israeli government.

    I am afraid you might be buying into the propaganda that anyone who speaks out against Israel is an anti-Semite, which is just not the case.

    And I don't support a "Palestinian state." I support that the land that was stolen from the Palestinian people be given back. That's not going to happen, though.

    How would you feel if the US came in and took over Canada and started mistreating and murdering your family? Would you like that? I don't think you would. Why would I support a nation that kills and bullies people? It doesn't mean I have anything against the people of that country. I judge people as INDIVIDUALS, not based on their religion or ethnicity.
     
  16. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    you forgot the vanderbilts [​IMG]
     
  17. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    And like I said, many people who use the term "zionism" are referring to Israel. Not the "Jewish culture." That's so stupid and shows such a lack of thought and understanding. That's like saying anyone who criticises the US is anti-Christian. I have nothing against the Jewish people, rather those USING the Jewish people for their own agenda.
     
  18. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Yeesh.

    Thank you for making the distinction. It's appreciated. But don't insinuate that I want people to keep fighting over a piece of land smaller than the very city I live in because I'm picking a side on the issue based on some assumptions that I am in favour of perpetuating conflicts of religion or ethnicity.

    I'm not sure what you are trying to say to me in the last two paragraphs.
     
  19. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    I DID make the distinction between the two types of zionist.

    Being jewish or not means nothing to me. If they were all Amish, I'd still accuse them of the crimes against humanity I know they're guilty of.

    Neocons were created by zionists. Lock, stock, and barrel. They are NOT new conservatives as the name implies, but rather an extremist organization of very powerful people who happen to be almost all jewish. They care no more about their own people than you or I. They helped serve up many of the fellow jews during WWII.

    Imagine being so wealthy, that life has become a bore. You have everything money can buy. Except for one thing.

    World domination. Its the only thing left.

    We all know that this ugly creature raises it's head every so often. This time its Zionists. And the United States military will be their means of attempting it. Why do you think we have over a hundred military bases around the world?

    Things like the war on terror are just practice runs for what is to come. Thats why no president of the US will ever be anything other than one of their puppets. Including Obama and Hillary.

    Think you've got a choice? You do. The ones they allow you to have.



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  20. guy

    guy Senior Member

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    sit back and enjoy the ride
     
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