Sorry I've been gone for so long, I've had problems that needed sorting out and now things are straight again, lol. For those of you who don't know me and are wondering why I am posting this here, I use to participate regularly in these area's of the forums (I love giving advice). To those of you I use to have problems with, sorry for being over-debative. I shouldn't have been trying to disprove peoples beliefs, it was wrong. But anyway, I intend on using this area more frequently to discuss what tripping has done for me. (Too much enlightenment).
although i am sure that you have enough experience with a 'few' things to give some advice, when it comes to lsd and this forum - for the most part you should be listening. there is something very wrong with people who think that they have enough experience at your age with the few trips you have had to consider themselves qualified enough to give advice about such a mysterious substance. even someone like myself, after many years and many trips i know better than to give advice about certain things. although i will give advice from time to time i like to keep it more along the lines of 'this is how i see it' through my own experience. one of the main reasons you run into so many conflicts on this site is because you are too young and inexperienced to be giving such advice. we all have something to say and i very much enjoy reading what even the ignorant have to say about lsd. not to say that you are ignorant - not at all. you have many wonderful things to say. some of the time it seems like you just want to disagree with someone who is much older and more experienced just for the sake of argument. sometimes you make good points but like i said for the most part you should be listening and sharing your experience. there may be a few times when advice from you is granted but more often than not you lack the necessary insight to give any therapeutic advice. not that there is anything wrong with what you are doing but you might want to consider that while you are giving advice you are not listening and when you are in a room with 20-30 people with far more experience than you it is silly that you consider yourself to be the one people should listen to. now, here i am giving advice. think about it! who is going to listen to some 16 or 17 year old kid who has only just started to experiment with lsd when they could pick up a book by ram dass, timothy leary or terance mckenna. when you read their books you notice that they are not really giving advice as much as they are sharing their experience and understanding of life. i think you are a wonderful kid with much potential. i think you have a lot to learn about yourself and life. a wise man will only give advice when they are absolutely sure about what they are saying - a lot of the time you give advice about things you do not fully understand and this is one of your greatest hurdles in life. for some reason i knew better than to give advice when i was not completely sure of myself. it amazes me that you can be so sure of yourself sometimes when you obviously are very confused. i don't mean to insult you as i feel that every one has something to give to the world. it is just that i think you could better appreciate those of us with more life experience. not that we are better than you - but understand that in 10 years from now you will be more knowledgeable and insightful than you are now and in that same respect you can understand how that makes us people you should listen to - not agree with all the time but listen to with an open mind as you understand a natural part of life and the evolution of the human spirit. now, before you get upset with me for offering you some advice, think about how you love to give advice and try to appreciate where i am coming from. there is no way that you have reached your potential and i hope you continue to post here as i am sure it will help you understand yourself and the world around you better. even though i am sure you don't like me very much (not sure why - maybe because i have proven you wrong so many times?) i am sure you are aware that even i have had a powerful effect on you even in such a short time. i look forward to future interactions with you and everyone else here. i hope we can keep it real and calm. there is no reason to get all upset. if you are upset by what you read, take time to calm down before you make your point or post. when we are upset we are unable to communicate effectively and people around us will loose respect for us. peace and love. speak your mind and share your experience. leave the advice to things you have much experience with to save yourself from looking foolish. i am here to learn about myself, the world and psychedelics through interactions with others and by reading many of the wonderful posts and experiences of others. if i can have a positive effect on others that's a bonus. i am her to learn, grow and influence.
3xi, I hear you brother. I understand I am quick to react and that has been a problem of mine, but please do realize it is mostly because I act out of logic and common sense to what I believe may be the fullest degree (and ofcourse that may not always be the fullest degree, thus creating the margin for error). I am aware, now. I do try and keep an open mind, honestly. I know what you are trying to put out by the kid thing (typical society (or at least american society) underminds and doesn't 'fully listen to' what they may believe is of lesser intelligence (and ofcourse not all the time, so don't freak out)), but to be honest, that is how I think too. I undermind kids my ageaswell.. I have always been socially dominant, humourous, etc., and even adults use to tell me, I have 'adult' humor (I realize I may sound cocky there). Before I started tripping I actively manipulated (meaning I knew I was) other people my age. You do not understand me as a person and do not understand the circumstances in my life which made me more aware of what surrounds me, earlier. AKA "Growing up too soon". I had a very abusive father growing up (like many right? [just to make my situation sound less important for you]), also what I use to consider the "shit end of the stick" in many area's (due to thinking negatively), and yet however it never really started bothering me 'for real' until I got into the tripping aspect. Tripping ate me alive. I try to too, except by technicallity (when I say, "it is my opinion", etc). I at least try to make it clear within common sense that I am not 100% and that if they take my advice, to take it with a grain of salt. Often when I argue I never take into consideration age or experience for the sake of keeping the argument 'not personal' (at least now anyway). You will learn some day that experience comes with age, or more specifically, 'time'. Your experience may have came more casually than mine has, I try to stay focused. Also, take into consideration that I have 24-7 access to the internet, which is an information superhighway for other peoples experience and FACTS (giving me the potential to learn/generalize experiences and memorize facts quicker to help others out). Indeed, which is why I don't consider myself the person 'everybody' should listen too. It is the persons option to accept my opinion as something they would like to follow. Which is also why I explain why I have the opinions I do, so that way they won't feel like they are following somebody totally disillusioned. (Gullable). Exactly, which is why I don't display my age. Since you now know my age, you've been using it as a point of reference to tell me basically that I should shut up and still listen because that I'm basically young and don't know 'the better'. (which I do, hence why this is possible). I am confused sometimes, yeah, who wouldn't be? Like you said, we all need somebody to give us that outside insight -- as we all dont know "EVERYTHING". I usually try and make it clear though, that way people don't follow bad advice. I do appreciate where you are coming from. Actually, I am glad I started listening to you. Now there should be less misconceptions between us. I was in no way a perfect person and will never be. I have much to learn, as what life will be all about. But don't forget ever -- you could die any day (So I might as well live my day too its fullest). 3xi, I hope we improve our ties. Peace&Love.
i agree that you are wise beyond your years! BUT, i think you are not as wise as you think you are. actually i am very pleased to have just read your last post. i would say you should humble yourself but i think you already get that much. i to had an abusive childhood. not physical abuse but harsh mental abuse. my parents did not know how to love and support me and my dreams, instead they taught me how to hate myself to the point where i should drink myself silly like them. fortunately i stumbled across lsd before it was too late. i am happy you are not upset with my post. i don't know you well enough to set you strait. nor do i think you need me to set you strait. you can do that yourself. but i do see where you could use some improvement and i am happy to hear that you understand my points to some degree. i have been away for some time as well, glad to have you back on the forum. you have a powerful effect on me as well i am sure.
yeah, I'm sorry about the arguments man. My apology was mainly specified towards you, as we had heated debates that were almost senseless. My abuse was both physical and mental, but I had the ability to keep on trucking and that's what people never really understood about me as a kid(, and i find it odd that after all the shit we've spouted at eachother we've related in that way). Tripping brought all them emotions out which I've been keeping sheltered my whole life (yep, i was sheltered from emotions, not the way people are, can u see the problems there?) as i was brought up not to believe in them, or at least overlook them as something 'not wholely important'. (the main reason I've been a calm yet up-ur-ass if need be person my whole life, and i hope through further life style changes i can fix that) I'm glad we've came to an understanding on that level. There's the good and bad, knowing both sides to the degree I think I do is probably what makes me sound like I 'think' I know all the possibilities. I know I don't.
swoosh welcome back man i missed ya. and 3xi, when did you make a comeback? swoosh, im afraid to say that you will find the LSD forum a wee bit fucked up, compared to the golden days. but hey, looks like we got two of the regulars back. there may be hope after all!
Welcome back to both of you guys 3xi and Swoosh. At some time my family was not there, there were some new commers, but family.... I had that ritual to check if all of you guys are ok, and than start the work. Lately, there was not much happening, but I can see some kind of reunion happening soon. Love you all to the bits!!!
What can I say? I just felt abandonned for some time. There were some new guys asking some questions witch we went through upside down and the attitude was saying that even if you tell them the truth, they will say that you are crazy because you probably took too much, and they even don't know that too much is only when somebody is beating you Nice to have you back and love you all, no matter how stupid some of you sound (not you neodude1212)!!
