Atheism vs. World Religions - Which has caused more deaths?

Wow. I meant the "IRA". Wow.

I'm going t obed.

 

to be human is not a choise to be part of a mass organization is. its silly to be guilty of your own humanity. its as silly as feeling guilty for the actions of others you dont even know.

 

A lot of those really are grasping at straws...but even the ones that can be directly attributed to Christianity would pale in comparison to the numbers from Stalin and Mao alone.


The Roman empire was polytheistic (Zeus worshippin') for almost their entire existence before Constantine came about.

As was said, the Nazis certainly didn't kill in the name of Christianity.

The crusaders did, but go ahead and chalk up the 1 or 2 million deaths from that next to the 80 mil.

Oh I see you meant IRA not NRA. The IRA may have killed thousands, still not millions. Don't forget there's 1 thousand thousands in just 1 million.

The First Nations' peoples of North America I'm not familiar with, and there's probably a good reason for that (they didn't kill millons).


All the rest are very loose associations...AIDS in Africa, and the like. I think most would agree with me there.


Even with all of that, you can't even scratch the tip of Stalin's iceberg of death.

I stand by my point.

 

Those deaths were of the faithless, not the atheist, and their atheism was not the cause of their attacks and wars.

 

Wow. Just wow.

I guess I shouldn't feel guilty for being a Christian, then.

 

Atheism is bullshit. I consider myself just a human being.

 

If you want to make this argument, you would in turn have to concede that THE ONLY war/deaths that can be attributed to Christianity are from the Crusades. Otherwise, any deaths at the hands of Christians aren't the result of their faith.

I don't think you would make that concession.

 

Wow. Arguing with Michael Savage is like arguing with a talking plant.

 

ya i agree with religeon dosnt cause deaths directly. Thats the whole "did marolyn manson music cause colombine?"

"[insert something] dont kill people, people kill people"

 

First time I've heard that one...thanks though

Keep in mind typing =/= talking.

 

So you fail to agree that terrorists saying "We do this because of our Christian faith" aren't doing it because of their CHRISTIAN FAITH?

 

No, I WOULD agree with that. I can't think of too many times that I've heard that though...can you?

 

prejudice based on religion (or lack thereof) is ridiculously stupid

 

Non-Crusader Christians terrorizing and torturing Hindus in India, the Westboro Baptist Church, the KKK. Turk genocide, Jews in Russia in the late 1800s, the violence of the Irish, Sunni-Shiite warfare.

 

Well I guess I set myself up with that one because of course I can't and won't say no one's ever killed in the name of Christianity, misguided as they may be. Still those are valid examples

EXCEPT


I typed "Christians torturing Hindus" and "Christians terrorizing Hindus" into google, and everything I saw had to do with Christians being attacked BY Hindus and forced to convert. Seems to me a case of 1 side vs the other...


And also I thought the Turk genocide was the extermination of Christians and not the other way around?


And how on Earth did you find a way to pin the Sunni-Shiite conflict on Christians?

 

I'm not just saying Christians are violent, you are defending world religions and therefore I am showing religious-based persecutions.
And the British conquered India, and they did horrible things to the hindu.

 

I wish there was a "dumbest thread ever"-smiley, it would fit in perfectly here. this whole argument is inherently stupid.

religion is fine, atheism is fine. murder is wrong no matter what, and people of all creeds, races and social standings have helped make this world a shittier place throughout history. assholes come in all shapes and forms, and they'll keep killing people in the name of whatever sounds right. I'm slightly disgusted that you would use all these people's deaths as an argument in this petty fucking debate.

learn to accept that people are different and have different beliefs, tolerate others, don't kill anyone, and this world will be just dandy. please close this thread, it's hurting my brain.

 

Haha, because people go around killing in the name of there not being a god.

best part is when he starts insinuating that the theory of evolution, or "*darwinism*" is synonymous with Atheism. for having a site named "Scholar's Corner" i was utterly shocked at how unscholarly it was.

 

To the last 2 posters: like I said, the reasons for this thread was to address the bashing (mostly directed towards Christians) that I see both in my life and on this forum.


I never said or insinuated that the theory of evolution was synonymous with atheism. I only quoted a specific portion of that website, the rest of it I'm not familiar with.

And FYI a belief in Christ is NOT synonymous with a denial of the theory of evolution. Even Pope John Paul II has publicly stated that he believes in some form of evolution, and that Darwin's work is something to be deeply considered.

We don't all think the Earth is 6,000 years old...

 

Alright, you're named for a legendary idiot, and perhaps I've been too vauge again. But for one, you're counting people who died of starvation in communist nations as being murdered by atheists.

So if we're counting the number of people in history who've died under famines it's an argument over whether atheists don't farm as well. Which is as fucking stupid an argument as 'who murdered the most.'

Also, There are things to look at like the ethnocides of the America which is around 100 million, the Muslim invasions of India, which were also around 100 million.

And if we're going to count all deaths colonialism by just christian nations. I don't even want to consider the numbers slain. I

The numbers attributed to the wars of Taiping in China, who was a christian, are also in the 20 milions.

And even though your knowledge of history is facile... it's irrelevant because it's a moronic fucking argument anyway.

If you feel the need to make a point about religious tolerance without comparing deaths it might be a bit more coherent and appreciated.