Why are we so afraid of Islam?

then we should include other countries on that list too. not just saudia arabia, but Israel as well. as far as 9/11 goes, all we know is what we're told by the media outlets. even then that doesn't necessarily make it true.

 

I agree with you. I just don't trust the CIA 100% (nor KGB, for that matter), whatever they say. Why? Because it's an inteligent agency, info gathering agency shrowded in secrecy. Just like NSA - No Such Agency.
It's the name of the game.

 

Sunlion knows the chit. Good posts. I like you.

My thoughts and questions are jumbled today but here goes...we send way too much money to Israel. Why do they keep plowing down houses and moving their borders anyway? I love the comment about where Israel aims its missiles. HAHA too funny. Was it 4 children they killed last week? Good to know they can aim so well. Why has the bulldozing company Caterpillar been picketed so much? Why did a student from Washington state die under a bulldozer driven by an Israeli soldier? Could it be that the Israelis were plowing down houses with people in them. I get sick of people saying anything said against Israel is anti semitic too.

I don't feel sorry for Israel.

Muslims:

We should never have parked our tanks on the Gaza strip in the first place it is their hallowed ground and should have been respected.

Religion has been the start of many wars and there are nuts on both sides. I have read both the Koran and the Bible and they BOTH are violent in nature. They all smite everyone else for one reason or another. The New Testament is the only part of the Bible worth reading as far as I am concerned. It is funny though I have noticed that the people that show hatred toward the Muslims the most are devout Apostolic Christians who say they live by the New Testament , go figure?

I can't condemn an entire group of people for the actions of a few. I did not condemn all Christians for the actions of Jim Jones or Tim McVeigh. I saw a tee shirt once that read: Atheists don't fly planes into buildings.

At the same time there are crazy people out there running camps like the one in Syria on how to kill innocent people and those camps need to be stopped but how? If we force other countries to close their terrorist training camps will we have to close all the US paramilitary training camps in this and other countries? What about Blackwater?

I think the answers are easy we need to get our asses home and take care of our own.

We have no business NATION BUILDING hmm where did I hear that one?

I think the people of the middle east need to be left alone. They were a thriving civilization before we stuck our oil greedy noses in they will be again. It is not our place to SAVE them all. If you want to call it that. I call it making them over in the mirror image of us. Most people are not happy to leave other civilizations alone they have to fix them.

The USA has been fixed look at it.... McDonalds, Burger King, Home Depot, Walmart, K mart Starbucks, next town...oh look they put the Mc Ds on the left side here. How exciting.

Oh and the CIA only used waterboarding a few times? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

The US military under the direction of Donald Rumsfeld was water boarding and even sexual molesting their own soldiers right up until a few years ago as part of Special Forces training. They only stopped when they got sued. So I am to believe the CIA only did this a few times? It is a perversion that was used and is still used. There are some psychotic freaks way up high in the military and they have tried to mix their perversion for torture with sex. I think it is sick.

Just my 10 cents. <--- inflation.

 

Uhhh...source?


Certain people in the military were WILLFULLY waterboarded as part of a training coningent that was designed to show them the full effects of it, as well as how to resist it (just like all cops that carry pepper spray are first subjected to the pepper spray. AND just like all army volunteers used to be subjected to "tear gas rooms" as part of their training. THEY DO IT WILLFULLY.

 

I am fully aware of SERE training I have first hand knowledge. And I researched it when my son went through it at Ft. Bragg. He has been water boarded, gassed and shocked.

1995 U.S. Air Force Academy scandal


As a result of POWs' experiences during Operation Desert Storm, sexual assault resistance was added to the SERE curriculum. <--- (this was Rumsfeld's idea.) However, some of the training scenarios allegedly were taken too far by SERE officers at the academy during practical portions of the program. In 1995, the ABC television news program 20/20 reported that as many as 24 male and female cadets in 1993 had allegedly been sexually assaulted at the Academy during SERE training. One of the cadets sued the government, which eventually settled for a reported $3 million in damages.

 

Lots of soldiers went through this sex training before it was stopped and that kind of abuse spreads.

The New Yorker magazine alleged that psychologists who help direct the SERE curriculum have been advising the military at Guantanamo Bay and other sites on interrogation techniques.

So I don't believe for one minute that it is not still going on.