First I wanna say please don't comment if you "don't like people who shoot drugs". I do and i'm simply asking for suggestions. So I finally got a few oc's coming my way. My ex girl is coming into town saturday with 20 20mg oc's (not generics) and 10 10mg perx. Off topic, but she works at a phamacy..that's the shit huh..Anyways i've shot up plenty of heroin in my time but oxy is a different story. I tried before but not so great results. I use 1cc tools. Took the coating off crushed, put in spoon, added water, heated and drew up through cotton. Felt good but I feel like I wasted alot. Was that mainly binders left in the spoon? I was thinkin maybe crush them up and cold shake in a smal vile like dilaudid. Maybe the heat caused it to gel a lil bit? What's the best way to prepare these fukers. Oh and I know 20mg's prolly aren't the best oxy's to shoot but my tolerence is low. I haven't used any opiates in a month..I am gonna snif some but im very fond of the spike and since kickin my smack habit i wanna shoot somethin hahaha. Thanks for the help yall. Lol kick off on Saturday. Oc's and poontang what else do you need in life?? Be ez. Peace. -J
I use to cold shake my OC's,make sure you take off the outside coating and then crush the pill up ? you have to take off the coating or you will have tons of jelly shit in the water. To take it off just put the pill in youe mouth get it real wet. Take it out of your mouth and you can take it right off.And dude its not going to be like H at all. If you are expecting a Rush like you get from a bag of dope you are going to be very disapointed. when I had a real bad Herion habbit and could only Get OC's I use to have to bang 60mg to 100mg at ounce to feel a rush, They will do the trick getting you high but the rush from shooting it is not like Herion or even Dilaudid's at all.I know all to well what you mean man when you say you just want to shoot something.That fucking spike is more addictive then the dam drugs we do in them after awhile, Its the fucking rush we look for and always want. People who don't shoot drugs just don't understand the feeling it gives. The rush you get from the drugs hitting your system so fast is amazing its like blowing the best nut you ever blew but 1000 times better. But the down side it Its very very addictive. Thats why my ass trys to stay away from the spike.
Been out of the I.V.mode for a few years, but isn't there a generic that "goo's" up when you add water (TEVA?). and, friends who work as pharmacy techs...we could probably start a whole new forum on this one, lol
yeah the teva's gel up if you try to shoot or snort. i never understand why people dont just parachute the damn things. i know you get the rush from shooting and all that, but crushing and swallowing has always worked for me. to each his own, though..
Haven't researched it yet, but there's a new generation of meds that are supposedly "abuse proof". As if...
well OC's are bad to shoot due to the fact that the wax formation they imploy for time release, gets shot up into your veins, when you shoot the stuff up, the coating is not the time release, so just sucking off the coating will do nothing for the wax matrix that OC brand name uses to make it time release, as far as generics I do not know what they do.
Like shocbomb said, just crush and mix it well into cold water. Don't cook it, because that just dissolves more binders into your shot. I thought banging OC's was pretty swell, but it's just easier to snort and save my needles for better things.
i dont have generics...i know better than to try to shoot them...whats great about my girl workin in a pharmacy is i dont get any generic shit...she's the best...so i guess what i can conclude is cold shake the pill and filter through cotton..maybe too much heat fuked my shot up??
I am not sure if you have needle exchange programs/facilities where you ae but if you do get all your tools from there. you will need, some 10ml barrels, 0.5gauge tips, water, and especially most importantly a filter (the green or brown ones as these are less stifling than the fine guage but stil very safe and they screw on to your barrel) you should be able to alcohol swabs froma pharmacy. pre warning! ATTENTION ALL WHO ARE NEW AT THIS PROCESS! -YOU DON'T NEED TO COOK YOUR PILLS AFTER CRUSHING THEM!! FORGET THE HOLLYWOOD BULLSHIT. lab prepared pills contain waxes that cause absises in your ateries and amputaion may most likly results over time and even death!! and for fucks sake don't cook'em, they are prepared in a lab and contain various chalks waxes and other shit specially designed for gentle ingestion in the gut they are not designed to be in injectied (even though its easy to do!) AND BY THE WAY DON'T SUCK ON EM TO CLEAN EM, USE A ALCOHOL SWAB FOR CHRISTS SAKE! SALIVA HAS ACIDS TO BREAK DOWN CHEMICALS AND TURNS EM TO MUCH IN PREPARATION FOR INGESTION, SUCKING ON THEM FUCK THEIR COMPISITION AND MAKES THEM MUCK. ok here we go: 1. USE AN ALCOHOL SWAB TO CLEAN THE PILL AND GENTLY DRY WITH THIN COTTEN TOWEL (like a pillow slip) 2. place the dry pill in some folded paper and gently crush with the back of a tablespoon until the pill is well broken down 3. carefully pour the powder into a shot glass and add 8ml of clean water. 4. stir the mix with the plastic tip of the needle cover or the top of the plunger (the flat part) don't over stir put gently make sure the powder is broken up and fine. 5. LET THE MIXTURE (SOLUTION) SIT FOR ABOUT 5-10 MIN this allowes the chalky shit to sink to the bottom, the morphine is soluble and dissolves. 6. attach the filter to the barrel (plunger) it screws on, and add the pick (needle tip) to the other side of the filter 7. place a bit of a cig filter or cotton wool in the solution and gently draw the solution up through the filter, you should get a nice clean product looking like clear water without any shit apart from a few bubbles and make sure you get rid of these air bubbles (as you should already know). also be sure not to let the tip get to close to the chalk as its a pain in the arse to have to clean the tip half way throu the draw back. 8. take the filter off, you can re-use it once more, (but make sure its used the same direction as before otherwise oall the shit will go into your syring and solution) put your tip back on and away you go. Ps you can keep the chalk and reuse for a later hit. it won't be as strong but it stil has morph in it. there you have it, the whole process takes about 15min if that!, not heating, its clean and very safe. hope it helps. JE
there are many different ways, the best thing anyone can do is first of all do lots of research, always be clean, take your time, and figure out what way works best for you.
Best way to prepare ANYTHING for IV use - in the name of harm reduction: Thus, in the name of safety, health and harm reduction, i am posting the text extracted from a Spring, 2000 article that appeared in the Entheogen Review. This contains PRECISE & SCIENTIFIC instructions for safely preparing injectible drugs - it will work for ANY DRUG. It's worth taking your time and doing it right. Do your research. Be safe. Here's the information: #15 THE ENTHEOGEN REVIEW , POB 19820, SA CRAMENTO , CA 95819-0820, USA # VOL UME VIIII, NUMBER 1 SPRING / SUMMER 2000 by LION (the artist formerly known as TOAD) The Entheogen Review neither encourages nor discourages the use of needles—we are aware that this is a personal choice. Nevertheless, there is clearly a stigma attached to the use of needles, even in the minds of those who take illicit drugs via other routes. Some of the reasons for this stigma may be: 1) IV (or IM) use of drugs is a route of administration that can provide a quicker method of action (a “rush”) and shorter effects, which may be more likely to lead to drug addiction; 2) The use of needles for illicit drug administration is primarily associated with heroin, and the negative popular image of “junkies” may present a conscious or unconscious idea in the user’s mind that they have “crossed a line” with their drug use that could lead to a greater likelihood of becoming psychologically addicted; 3) Generally speaking, those drugs used illicitly via injection (cocaine, heroin, ketamine, methamphetamine) seem to actually have a greater likelihood of physical addiction. The following information should be seen for what it is—the presentation of a method that allows for harm reduction for those people who chose on their own to use needles. Using pure compounds and following correct sterile procedures are paramount to protecting the health of the drug user. Needles are used as a safe and effective method of drug administration in hospitals worldwide. Our hope is that through education, the days of users sucking up toilet-water into a syringe to get their fix might be numbered. To reduce risk of disease transmission, IV or IM drug users should never share their needles, their works, or a communal pool of “drug water.” Those who feel compelled to re-use needles, need to be instructed on proper disinfection methods: first draw up clean water completely, to remove any excess blood, shake at least 30 seconds to break up blood clots, flush and repeat two more times, dumping the water each time. Then repeat this same procedure three times using pure bleach, and then three more times using pure water again. The plunger must then be removed from the syringe and washed with clean water. More safety information related to proper injection procedures can be found at www.cures-notwars.org/junkie/inject.html WE STRONGLY DISCOURAGE THE REPEATED USE OF NEEDLES OR SHARING NEEDLES, EVEN IF PROPERLY CLEANED. Sterile, single-use needles (such as those used by diabetics) should not be difficult to come by; they are available in some states over-the-counter, often can be had from veterinary or farm/ranch supply houses, and also by mail order from some companies. As a last resort, those in the unenlightened USA might make a quick trip across the border to pick some up in México, if simple possession of needles is not a crime in the state they plan to re-enter. This article is intended to educate drug experimenters on the logistics and technique used to prepare a safe, sterile drug solution that is suitable for intramuscular (IM) or intravenous (IV) injection. First and foremost the purity of the drug is paramount. It is extremely important that you know the exact purity of the material you intend to prepare, and preferably have a certificate of analysis or other documentation which guarantees the quality of the compound is greater than 99.8% pure. Hearing about people injecting street-quality materials such as black tar heroin or bathtub methamphetamine sends shivers down my spine. The traditional spoon cooking method and other techniques such as dry packing are dubious at best. The possible negative consequences from injecting impure or incompletely dissolved drug materials are very serious. Such practices can cause severe irreparable damage to the heart, veins and arteries, and lungs, not to mention the many other possible complications. It’s also important to have the correct form of the drug that is water soluble and has a relatively balanced pH. The HCl (and other salt) forms of the tryptamines and phenethylamines are typically suitable for injection with a few exceptions. DMT is usually not seen in its salt form on the illicit market since it’s usually smoked. If one had a pure free-base material it would be relatively easy to make a HCl or citrate salt solution for injection, although most of the free-base materials I’ve seen were not pure enough for this purpose. RICK STRASSMAN used the fumarate salt form for his intravenous DMT studies, and ALEXANDER SHULGIN mentions several other salts of DMT such as oxalate and picrate in TIHKAL. If there is any doubt in your mind as to whether your material is pure and in the suitable form for injection then please don’t do it. The following list of materials is what you will need to make a 30 ml bottle of prepared drug solution from which you can draw upon at your leisure. These items may be procured at a medical supply house and/or a scientific lab supply company. Some of these companies require you to set up a formal business account while others are relatively easy to purchase from as an individual with a credit card. Use common sense and a professional manner when dealing with these companies and it’s usually a “no questions asked” transaction. -Sterile syringe (a large 50 cc size is helpful for this process) and several sterile needles. -30 ml bottle of bacteriostatic 0.9% sodium chloride (saline) solution suitable for injection. -Sterile 0.2 µm micro pore filter (25 mm diameter cellulose acetate membrane, or glass filter membrane). -Small glass bottle with cap that will hold 30 ml of liquid. -Rubbing alcohol and cotton ball. -Drug of choice. Boil the glass bottle and cap/rubber stopper for 5–10 minutes to clean and disinfect it, then allow to dry. Now its time to determine your target concentration and weigh out the drug material. Say that you have 750 mg of N,N-dipropyltryptamine HCl and you want to make your injection solution 25 mg per ml. Your total weight of 750 mg is divided by 25 mg which equals 30 ml of liquid. You can also do the math backwards starting with the number of ml and mg/ml and multiplying that to find the total weight of drug material needed. 25 mg/ml is the proper ratio for DPT, since making it more concentrated will cause those pesky crystals to come right back out of solution. Put your 750 mg of DPT HCl in the empty glass bottle. Clean the rubber stopper on the sterile saline solution bottle with rubbing alcohol using the cotton ball. Take your sterile syringe and needle and draw out the 30 ml of the saline solution and place it in the glass bottle. You may need to allow some air back into the sodium chloride bottle to equalize the pressure as you go. Save the empty sterile sodium chloride bottle with rubber membrane intact for putting the completed sterilized solution back in. Next put the cap or rubber stopper on the glass bottle and shake vigorously until all of the drug material goes into solution. If the material is not dissolving you may gently heat the glass bottle by applying a hot tap water bath on the outside of the bottle. Be careful of building pressure from the heat in your glass bottle, it may cause the cap to pop off and spray your precious elixir all over. Sometimes materials can be very difficult to get into solution, but once you get them in they typically stay in. After the drug has fully dissolved you are now ready filter and sterilize the solution with the filter device. The micron filter will effectively eliminate all bacteria, viruses, and undissolved solids from the solution. Draw up and fill the syringe with drug solution from the glass bottle and remove the needle. In place of the needle attach the sterile 0.2 µm micro pore filter housing with a twisting motion. It fits into the Luer lock just like a needle. Attach a new sterile needle to the outlet nipple of the micro pore filter. With the outlet and needle pointed upward, gradually apply thumb pressure to the syringe to initiate flow. Continue thumb pressure until all the air in the device is displaced with liquid. Once liquid starts to exit the needle, stop applying pressure and insert the needle into the top of the empty sodium chloride bottle. Now facing the needle downward, apply continuous pressure and fill the bottle with drug solution. You may need to relieve the air pressure build up in the sodium chloride bottle while you are refilling it. This can be accomplished by inserting a sterile needle into the stopper to serve as a release valve. You will need to repeat the filtering process several times if your syringe holds less than 30ml. Be sure to remove the sterile needle and filter housing before attempting to draw up more unsterile solution from the glass bottle. Attach the old needle (unsterile) that you used the first time when drawing up the unsterile solution from the glass bottle, or just draw it up without a needle. Reattach the sterile needle and filter housing and finish filling the sterile saline bottle. If the filter flow becomes too slow or the resistance excessive then change the filter. Be sure to properly label your new bottle with the name of the material and the correct concentration per ml. __________________ Can't speak to specifics of crushing up pills, but this is the safest, best, cleanest procedure for IV drug preparation . . .
