Jonathan Livingston Seagull

Discussion in 'Metaphysics, Philosophy and Religion Books' started by Mystar, Feb 19, 2008.

  1. Mystar

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    I just read Jonathan Livinston Seagull and this time it made me fly.
    I would love to share ths experience with you
     
  2. Mystar

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    Does Jonathan symbolize the soul ?
     
  3. soaringeagle

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    awesome book, have u read any of his other books?
    illusions: diary of a reluctant mesiah especialy was amazing
    hed ocasionaly fly his sea plane into the lil grass airport i flew gliders out of and got to meet him awhile back

    does johnathan represent the soul? hmm id think it would be better described as repressenting an adventerouse spirit, willing to push the bounds of conventional limmitations..living acourding to ones own calling despite ridicule...guess hes kinda a hippy bird ...maybe thats why i relate..lol
    if u havent read one, or illusions, u definately should...illusions is really amazing
     
  4. Mystar

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    Hello

    I actually found that Jonathan is built like a cathedral.

    i found that each phase he went through made sense and prepared him for the next.

    So yes, perhaps you are right to say that it is more about the spirit
     
  5. Mystar

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    I also read The Reluctant Messiah awile back so I don't have a clear picture of the details in fact i would need to read it again
     
  6. soaringeagle

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    yea i havent read either in many many years
     
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    I read Johnathan Livingston Seagull as a retelling of the Christ story.
     
  8. Mystar

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    Hi Mike
    Why do you see it as the Christ story ?
     
  9. Mystar

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    Much love to you too soaringeagle
     
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    Mystar,
    It's been a while since I read it, but as I recall the second book, where he gathered disciples, had a lot of biblical allogory.
     
  11. Mystar

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    Hello Mike

    Yes it's true that it does have a biblical allegory but isn't this also true of Siddharta, of Arthur, etc.
    These great Masters all reach a level of perfection and then they return to help those on the lower planes that are able to to change levels and begin their own personal journey to the God within.
     
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    Siddaharta, not so much Christ as Buddha. Arthur, yes Biblical allegory.

    Lots of authors retold Bible stories. Bach among them.
     
  13. Mystar

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    I think that writers like Bach reveal the metaphysical side of things.
    Bach was heavily inspired by St Exupéry's "Le Petit Prince"

    I read this book called "The Universe In Bar-Codes" by Emmanuel Yves Monin.

    I learnt that everything in the Universe is composed of 12 parts. So I read Jonathan until I could dectect the twelve parts the whole story is based on.

    It's a good way to know if a book or anything is complete.

    If this isn't clear and you need me to say more I'll be happy to.
     
  14. MikeE

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    Taking Doyle's Sherlock Holmes stories as a whole, how many steps do they take?

    Is there a 13th after Reichenbach Falls?
     
  15. Mystar

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    I can recommend the name of the book for you "Univers En Code-Barres Dodécalogie é Transdiciplinarité" Emmanuel-Yves Monin.

    You could maybe put the question directly to the author by typing his name and getting his contact address.

    I did it for Jonathan and would be happy to share that with you if you like.
     
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    The book is in French Mike and it shows how to synthesize and forgot nothing when doing a dissertation or conference.
     

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