Killing Queers

Boy, does that sound evil! One week ago Lawence King was just another gay kid trying to figure out his place in life. Fifteen years old if I remember correctly... close to the same age as lots of you guys. Brandon David McInerney (14yrs old)doesn't like gay kids so he brought a pistol to school and killed Lawence...2 shot in the head in front of his classmates. MY GOD..that's just insane!
I don't remember seeing any comments here about that murder...two days later the Northen Illinois University Murders grabbed and kept the national head lines even as young Lawence's body was kept alive so he could be an organ donor. The killer at NIU was alledgedly off his medication, maybe had a history of psychiatric problems. OK, so maybe that somehow explains why he killed people...I dunno. But how in hell does anyone explain the kind of hate that lead Brandon McInerney to kill a kid.

How does this affect you guys? Some of you are still in high school or college. Some of you are out, You're gay and people know you are. Are you concerned...scared...mad? Is this our plight in life? We're Gay so its OK to kill us if you're infected with hate.

We use these forums to talk about a lot of differnt things. I'd sure like to see some of you talk about this latest murder. I've mentioned brfore that I have a young son, 14 years old. Tonight he crashed out in his bed..dog tired from a long week-end of goofing and playing. I went in and nuzzled his silly little head and told him good-night. He farted! Laughed! and told me good night, said "te amo" (I love you). A real, live healthy kid. I cannot imagine someone wanting to hurt him...yet he too, is differnt than many...he is Latino, deep copper colored and so, hated by some, just for his skin color. Just as some of you are hated for loving another boy.

Damn, I talk a lot... how about it folks, what are your thoughts on this?

 

14, history of psychiatric problems, intentionally shoots a gay kid at school....

Well, my first thought is he might have been molested by a guy earlier on

Or not, he could just be plain nuts

 

Addendun:

Freaks me out see these guys nowadays that are like 14/15, coming out saying they are gay.

When I was that age, up till the end of high school, I really had no idea what gay really was. I thought all guys have their secret male friend that they fool around with just that no one talks about it, and that we all go off and make babies with the girls later on.

 

its a shame the ending of two young lives

 

I'm not scared of being killed by some crazy hunting for gays, I mean, what are the chances. The killer must've had a fucked up child hood to kill a kid for being gay. People die everyday, it's scary and it saddens me. Life is so fragile...The root of it all? Parents.

 

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I live very near where this happened and I have a 14 yo grandson. Obviously, he thinks it's really messed up. He's the type of kid that thinks being yourself and accepting people for who they are is NORMAL-what a concept!

That is NOT the prevailing attitude in this area. If you were to read some of the comments people have made in the blogs in the local paper, you would see where some of the kids are getting their anti-gay attutudes. Hate is being taught to some kids in their homes (and churches).

The whole thing is just so sad and wrong, but maybe some good will come of it. I think some kids may see the real damage that taunting does and how wrong it is to hate someone for who they are.

 

It's always so outlandish and distant when you hear about something like this. Only when it happens to you or close to you does it really sink in. When I was a freshman out in Indiana, my boyfriend called and told me that someone had hostages and a bomb in my high school. It ended with the man killing himself and a female student, whom I knew.

I went to the memorial service and realized that you just can't explain this sort of tragedy. Sure, this person had a crappy life and was beaten by blah and had mental problems and hated this that and the other, but it really doesn't make sense in the end. You can't just think, "Oh, he had a messed up childhood, ok that makes sense why he did this." And I don't know the answer to the problem, who knows what we could do to make things better

 

where'd the 14 y/o get the pistol from? why did he have so much hate for gays that he had to go kill someone? you don't just have hate for gays out of nowhere, he got it from somewhere or someone. would this have happened if he had stable parents or home? i don't think so. we don't have the full story, maybe the kid who did it was just born crazy in the head but i find that hard to believe.

 

I'm not sure what any of us can do to make it better, safer or whatever. What we can do is talk about these things, give ourselves a chance to express concerns/fears/ outrage, whatever. One of the things I'm doing with a local school is providing the guidance people with some resourses. I talk to kids about this stuff to see what their feelings are. Churches are something else. There are a few that are gay positive, the rest would probably like to see public executions of gays...what are gonna do with that?
I guess my question is , are we just going to accept our helplessness? Do we just have to wait and hope the next crazy doesn't get us or our loved ones? Shit...can't we do more than that? Any thoughts or feelings from anybody would be great. Lets hear from you.

 

you can try to defend yourself but other then that we live in a crazy world with with a lot of retarded people running around. sure we can decrease the deaths in the world like getting rid of ghetto neighborhoods and giving people the chance to complete their education etc but the system is too fucked to do anything about it. so enjoy life to its fullest while you got it i say. you never know when some crazy shit will show up to your door.

 

I don't think we'll always be helpless. Many people say that tolerance and the population of homosexuals is increasing. We could be seen as a new political group or other group that receives resistance for our belief. Take for example african americans. They were abused and hated because they had different colored skin, and when trying to improve their civil rights they received resistance. I see the gay group as a modern group of that sorts. We're going to receive resistance(although maybe more of religous resistance) if we try to improve our rights(like gay marriage). It's like the african american segregation and discrimination, just a smaller group and maybe not as hard. Sorry for making it so lengthy, I hate reading walls of text but yeah...

 

I live in a city right next to where it happened, and it just disgusts me. Why is it so hard for them to comprehend that there are some people who just like the same sex as themselves? And its something so trivial, too! Killing because of that is so horrible! And what my dad said.. Young people die everyday, its nothing different. It just really pissed me off (and he meant it to hurt me)

 

Feign-we must live near each other. And what your dad said is terrible. Seems like a crazy attitude for a parent!

 

I got shanked in the 10th grade with a welding electrode at school in tennessee over my sexuality, redneck children are insane.

 

The gay people I know knew they were gay at 5 years old.


I do all I can to stop gay hate. I wont have friends who hate gay people, and when I hear gay hate comments I always talk to people about it. I have been accused of being gay for it, but it doesnt really bother me. Nothing wrong with being gay anyway. I just dont want the ladies to think im gay.

 

treehugger, I had just come out to my dad, and he was none too pleased, so he used that to retaliate (it got me really angry, but I kept my cool.. We were in a restaurant)

 

Not really what I meant.

Yes I knew I liked guys in that way, my first crush started in Kindergarden, Kissing encounters in grade school, sexual encounters in high school.

Just through a combination of naivity and being sheltered, i really didnt grasp what gay was, and as I said before I thought it was ALL guys that did this, just no one talked about it.

We are talking late 80s in high school, no internet, The guys I was with in high school werent really gay (then anyway) was more just mucking around. I didnt know any effeminate guys, and I didnt have a job in high school, so info on gay was restricted to just what I saw on TV. Didnt click with me that guys jumping around in cycle shorts in an annual parade was the same thing.

Hard to explain to a teen nowadays who can easily discover info about it on the net, but I really had no clue, even though I was more sexually active than most straights

 

hay I take offence to that ,but your right most rednecks are out of there freakin minds
with ofcourse the exception of the best looking redneck on the forum

 

Being different in any way has always been a huge liability to ones safety. I'll never understand why people with the flock mentality, even though they are in with the robot majority, still feel so insecure about it that anyone who isn't part of it, they think must be killed or at least "taught a lesson" that they will never recover from.

I know if the hippies and all the other individualists were in the majority and the conservative conformists were the minority, I would be just fine with letting them have their lives and their opinions. But regardless of minority or majority, humanity's progress in becoming tolerant and peaceful is way too slow. Every day technology advances and humans power to hurt other humans and be intolerant keeps increasing. I really think that as a species, we are running out of time to get our sht together. All the time that we are humans are spending trying to get straight whats right and wrong, we are moving toward a world in which it won't matter who's right or wrong...but who survives.