Attempt of mescaline extraction from san pedro need help...

Hi...SWiM been using the tech found here.

SWiM is using citric acid and xylene so far. After he pureed and boiled the cactus (acid extraction) he slowly simmered the remaining liquid overnight down to about 300ml from 3 liters. He's confused about what happened next and where to go from here. Any help would be much appreciated.

During the de-fatting process He has formed quite an extraordinary emulsion. Like an idiot he rolled the solution too vigorously and now it's all emulsified up. Also instead of an acqueous layer at the bottom there are white flakes. So he has a white flaky layer on the bottom, a green layer in the middle with white flakes slowing sinking (real slowly) and a top emulsified layer of xylene and who knows what else. This is his first attempt (if that wasn't already obvious) and was wondering where he should go from here.


He put the solution in the freezer to see if he could get the xylene to seperate that way but then realized it was evaporating with all his food. It was in there for about 2 hours. Should he throw my food out? Does it soak in? Is he the biggest idiot in the world or what?

 

well no response yet so here is what swim did. swim threw away butter and eggs in fridge (absorb the smell of xylene) and everything else seems safe to eat. swim let solution sit and then drained off bottom two layers (acqueos and fat layers). swim put these layers in a large pyrex baking dish to let evaporate off the rest of xylene as these stank pretty badly of xylene. after two days of evaporation xylene smell is completely gone and swim is left with a pyrex baking dish with dark brown oozy gelly goo.

Will this evaporate further or will the fats make it stay this oozy gooey consistency? Is it safe to consume or is there residual xylene leftover in the product? What would you do if faced with a simillar situation?

 

freebase usually is gooey, unless you recrystallize the hell out of it (even then, it'll still be resinous crystalline product...freebases have a low m.p., thus the gooey consistency) if it's a salt form, (acetate, hydrochloride, sulfate, etc.) goo means it's supersaturated. redissolve in distilled water.

 

Alright well thanks for the response but I'm not sure if you understood what I meant really. he started the extraction aborted during the part when you defat the solution. he basically did an acid extraction, boiled it down to 300ml from 3L, added xylene, then let the xylene dissolve. Now he has brown sticky goo. You're saying he should re-disolve in distilled water and pound it?

 

*confused* what happened to the aqueous layer? did that evaporate too??
If you threw out the bottom aqueous layer, you messed up (that's the layer you wanted)... but if you set it aside and just let it evaporate, try redissolving the goo in distilled water, add some NaOH to take the pH to about 9, then extract with xylene. at this point (if it was salvageable), you can add sulfuric acid dropwise to the xylene, and white flakes will precipitate (mescaline sulfate), add hydrochloric dropwise, or you can let the xylene evaporate again, and throw the goo in some OJ (don't worry, it safe). just don't take the freebase as is. it's quite caustic

 

Well he discarded the top layer (xylene) and kept the bottom two. They smelled strongly of xylene so he let it dissolve over a few days and now he has goo. He needs to abort any further chemical processes because he doesn't have a safe place to use xylene. Therefore he's wondering what's the best way to consume what he has left?

 

dissolve over a few days? or evaporate?

he can try to dissolve a small sample in water to check the pH...if it's around 3 (which ideally, it should be), he can dissolve the goo in his favorite alcoholic beverage and chug it (if it doesn't reek too bad of xylene). though he may want to redissolve all the goo in distilled water, and evaporate, just to be on the safe side

 

he will try it tomorrow and let you know what he decides. He can't smell any xylene on it anymore so hopefully it will be chuggable. If not he'll re-evaporate it. I'll let u know what what happens with swim. Thanks for your help.

 

He tested the ph after dissolving a small amount in distilled water and it's about 3 or maybe 4. It does smell quite a bit of xylene still. if he doesn't mind the taste would it be potentially harmful to ingest even with the smell of xylene?

oh and in response to your last question, he let it "evaporate" over a few days.

He started to mix it up with water again and it smells really bad of xylene. Does that mean there is still xylene in the gunk? He thought it all evaporated and is confused. Btw the brand xylene used was xylol, if that makes a difference.

 

it should be ok, xylene does tend lo leave the aqueous layer reeking. if he did not see any suspensions in the diluted product (a layer of xylene above the water), he should be good. otherwise, he can run a fan over it. the xylene will evaporate before the water.

xylol is just another name for xylene

 

Alright man well he's very appreciative of your help. He added a bunch of water and has a fan running over it now just in case. he's not too keen on the idea of digesting xylene. On wednesday he'll mix it up and drink it. Two wonderful flavors coming together...xylene and cactus juice..yum.

Thanks again.

 

no problem.

personally, I find that a margarita mixer makes the taste of the san pedro extraction very tolerable...not bad at all, actually

 

Next time, do yourself a favor and try this: http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261777