Asperger's Syndrome

This thread is suspicious to me.....

 

it wasn't the part where he compared Asperger's to the cartoon Doug was it..?

 

There's truth to this, but have you ever considered the alternative?

Normal is nothing more than a statistic, and everyone involved in health care, from doctors to psychologists, knows that it's nothing more than a statistic.

It's interesting, though, to see you question what "normal" is while in the same paragraph as talking about "individuals" who diverge from the norm. So it's okay for YOU to define normal, but nobody else?

There's on problem you're forgetting: the world's come a long way since Szasz. The vast majority of people WANT to be treated -- not to fit in with the majority but because they don't like the effects of what they've got.

It's "normal" to have a functioning heart. Are you suggesting that someone who has a heart attack would only have an operation to fit in, and not because the side effects of their ill health of debilitating?

Modern psychology is split into about 20 different categories and only one of them can prescribe medication: psychiatrists. The vast majority of psychologists in the other fields believe that medication should be a last resort, and are unable to prescribe them.

Simply put, you're ignorant to the inner workings of the psychology community. It's not all about medication and it's not all about assigning labels. Social psychologists have been arguing what you're arguing for decades longer than you have, and in a much better way. Is it not disconcerting to you countless of other people on the internet have made exactly the same arguments as you? Like, word for word? I say none of this as an insult, but sometimes it's time to re-evaluate why you're regurgitating the same nonsense that everyone else who's not directly involved with something is saying.

Yes, this was obviously wrong and it happened to millions of kids. But 1) it mainly happened in America, and the world doesn't start and end with America, so stop basing all your arguments on what happens where you live, and 2)...

Nope, it was clearly OVERdiagnosed, but it's also clearly not made up. The fact that you was misdiagnosed with it says nothing of your ability to judge if the millions of other people diagnosed with it really have anything wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO4QONjI5GU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4UKHR7ejBQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyM4MNaVeHU

 

Anybody a member of Wrongplanet? I used to think I had Aspergers, as I have some of the traits, but after a visit to Wrongplanet I have decided I don't have aspergers...

 

You contradicted yourself in the paragraph above.:hysterica

Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! {Banging my head on the my desk} I keep waiting for you to just read what ~angeline's dreams is saying, and get it, and learn something, but you never do!

Yes, AS is on the autistic spectrum. Yes. Yes. It's not the only kind of autism, but it is one kind.

I think you saw a special on Oprah and now you think you're an expert.

 

I'd go so far as to say that schizophrenia is also completely made up

 

People with schizophrenia aren't 'diseased' in my opinion. That condition seems like it allows the person to see the world for what it truly is. And depending on the person, could cause suffering or not.

At least that's how I am understanding it... based on how the LSD experience is similar to having schizophrenia, and the fact that we have chemicals in our brain already that can give us a psychedelic experience, naturally.

I think this is partly why scientists can't find absolute truths, simply because they only observe reality through the common human perception, thinking that perception is the most accurate depiction of reality. The brain is a way to focus on reality in many different ways, and one way isn't necessarily better or worse than another.

 

I've been diagnosed with Aspergers so I guess a lot of my odd behavior could be attributed to that disorder. I sometimes feel that I'm outside myself observing my actions. I'm feeling something pretty existiential right now.

 

I have a friend w/ schizophrenia who would disagree.

Peace and love

 

It's definitely not made up, but I wouldn't consider it a disease, per se.

 

I don't have Asperger's. While I'm not exactly the best person in the world when it comes to doing well and feeling easy in new situations and relatively new social situations, it is not something I feel can be classed as an affliction.

 

dude, i agree completely.

it's like anybody who see's reality as a fabrication of humans, and see's it unskewed, and raw is constituted to some sort of mental illness. like you said, those with that "greater sense of reality" who like to use critical thinking are usually considered candidates for mental illness.
this thread rings the lyrics of Working Class Hero by John Lennon in my head.
"As soon as your born they make you feel small
By giving you no time instead of it all

They hate you if you're clever and they despise a fool
Till you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules "

it just seems like these people are too smart for their own good, or societys own good.
people like him and what he described, are fed pills just, almost to be dumbed down. you know?

i'm not diagnosed, but i've always wondered if i would be considered mentally ill because of some of my traits. i'm not going to go that far, since i'm happy with my persona, but i just wonder.

 

its a oddily unclassifiable ailment, from what i've noticed its apparent those blessed with "AS" or what you may want to call it, have an uncanny ability to focus mentally, and are less impaired with natural human impulses, mostly when it comes to social cues, thus the specific person with it imparts a person who may seem arrogant, self-centered. when in fact they are merely on their own reality tunnel self tuned for the flow of thought. In my opinion its better to have a hyperactive-independent mind process, more so than the common socially bred socio-sexual mind circuit. which is mostly left brained activities. normally people who operate mainly with right brained neuro process are considered far-out individuals or just special, whats failed to be realized is the brain is in an evolutionary metamorphosis with an infinite number of programmings that can be arranged voluntarily by the sensitive. as humans evolve into more mind central beings, people with physical,left brained, egos will be left in the dust. remember the institutions promote left brained superiority... watch the flow of light carefully, theyre drawing the lines for your unconsciousness..... lmao.

 

People with autism may have functional abnormalities, and under that definition. Yes, it is a disorder. But not in the sense that they are diseased, or 'unnatural'.

Just because they have a hard time living in our world, doesn't mean they are weak.

That's mostly what I meant when I said it isn't a disorder. Maybe everyday people have a disorder? We can't do what an autistic person can do, naturally.

I wonder what the world would be like if the first humans were autistic, and remained autistic.

 

Yes, I have been diagnosed with asperger's but slowly my skills are getting better. Socially Im pretty stable now around friends and im stable around people I don't know if im around a couple of my friends also but I still am not good at talking around a bunch of people I don't know. As a kid my biggest intrest was video games and mainly that's the only thing I would talk about all day at school with kids. Also I was always facinated as a kid with the trashtruck that comes every thursday and I would alwalys run outside to watch it every thursday. I couldn't ride a bike without training wheels till I was 9. I could not tie my shoes till I was 11. Im not gonna wright everything but that's a quick overview.

 

I'm sort of digging up an old thread here, but I am currently undergoing a diagnosis for AS. My psychologist is an AS expert with 30 years of experience, and while she has given me a working diagnosis of AS and has said in so many words multiple times that I am in fact on the autistic spectrum, she is not sure that my social difficulties have been great enough to warrant a diagnosis, or that an AS diagnosis is the best fit for me because most of my problems are related to anxiety, not AS itself. She is taking a very strict and also utilitarian approach to my diagnosis, which kind of bugs me (I think truth is the ultimate value here), but whatever. It is clear that my strengths and weaknesses are exactly those of aspies, and it helps me to better myself to understand my brain in that light, which is all that really matters.

I post on WrongPlanet pretty frequently. If anyone here would, aspie or not, would like to talk about this subject or any other for that matter, don't hesitate to PM me.

 

I think I have it. I've had most of the symptoms since I was small.

 

Yes, I have Asperger's and it truly is a double-edged sword: extreme ability to focus on interests, talents in certain areas, excellent memory...and then the social and sensory problems that come along with it.

I, too, have a wonderful imagination and very vivid dreams, which I always remember (they're usually scary though). l feel little need to do hallucinogens because of this rich dream world I already have access to. It's almost like being on a low dose of shrooms all the time, which can be good and bad.

I'm a part of some wonderful forums at:

http://www.autism-pdd.net/forum/default.asp

The people are very informative and there are no arguments or insults being thrown around, as everyone's in the same boat and just looking for answers. It's nice to feel included!