question about suriving highschool

Oh my gawd, little foot... this thread is ruined... this is so stupid.

 

Earthmother wrote: "*Littlefoot. Please quit it..."

Quit what? You include no quotes from me.

I'm not even bothering to read yet another one of the vague and rambling tirades
you vomit every time someone dares to subject one of your posts to critical
analysis.

Littlefoot

 

Sure seems stupid to me. All these long paragraphs of generic criticism but no one has
the courage to include any quotes from me, so it's impossible to tell just what
they are upset about.

I think that's deliberate. They don't have the integrity to debate me on any of the
issues I raised.

Or maybe they just have thorns in their paws.

I think I'll just let them work it out on their own.

Littlefoot

 

It's just another bump in the road. This too shall pass and all will be calm. We can only do our best to do what we believe is right, not just for ourselves but for everyone.

About High School, it's tough and they teach some not so usefull stuff, but it does set a pattern to learn rather then the alternitive. I think home schooling is the ideal school, if the parent/teacher has the ability to teach. That too is difficult, no one person is so learned that they know everything there is to teach. Education is the keys to wisdom, experience is the proof.

I was shunned in school bc I was hippie, in fact they put me in a school for socially dysfunctional teenagers bc I took LSD. I didn't care what they thought, I wasn't trying to agravate them, and I didn't want them agravating me.

It wasn't that I didn't want to learn things, I just didn't like what they were puttin' down. I was bored, the classes and teachers were uninteresting. The sike school was cool, we could listen to the radio and smoke.. we did or work at our own pace and the teachers were cool.

There was a small band of us mistfits that were the hard core stoners and a few that were mentaly dysfunctional and needed a more one on one enviroment. There were about 11 students and two teachers one of which was the principle/sike doc and lived on the small compound that was connected to the sike hospital next door. We were free to come and go and did not live there, just 8 hrs a day like regular school

We got stoned at school everyday, it was like a cool place to hangout and learn something if you wanted, if not just sit and veg. Altho we didn't get high in the class room we did outside. Everybody wore shades. it must have looked strange to the two teachers.. half the class wearing dark glasses inside., the same half that went off campus for lunch.. funny, the things we do in our youth. I later went to collage to further my education in the healing field. I still am a student, I am still learning and growing. Like we all are.

Peace and Brotherhood
sh



sh

 

That sounds a bit like the "private" school my kids were in for a while. There is nothing like what you describe here, but there are always some kids the school considers "problems", either due to their actions or due to who their parents are. Needless to say, my kids were some of those who were labeled troublemakers even tho the only one who actually ever did anything BAD was my son who liked to skip school occasionally... So they made life really rough until I and a few other parents with the same problem got REALLY pissed and took our kids out of their prison/school ALL AT THE SAME TIME and enrolled them in the local hippy-run private school. Up until that point, there were only a few students there and they actually thought that they had to DO something resembling school work... But when the "problem" kids entered the school, it became suddenly obvious that they only THOUGHT they had to do any actual work, when in REALITY they were allowed to "go with the flow" and learn at their own pace. Once THAT was discovered, the parents of THOSE kids got their panties all in a bunch and REMOVED their kids so they would not be "corrupted" by the "bad" kids who were actually learning more there than they ever did in regular school... That was a stepping stone to eventual homeschool, which the school board not only approved easily for all those "problem kids" but they went above and beyond the call of duty in order to keep those kids OUT of their school by doing everything they could to HELP us keep our kids homeschooled. The LAST year they were in homeschool, the school never even saw fit to give them their end of year tests, just pass 'em on, no questions asked. It was completely bogus. My youngest daughter ended up quitting school altogether at 15, the school board never said a word, even tho the legal age is 16. They just didn't give a shit. Well, GOOD, because once my kids got out of that trap and had some time to grow up a bit, they all went back to the studies that actually interested them and they are happy. Only one of four actually graduated highschool. One got her GED, which has not done anything for her at all except make it where she can say she has one. The others are not playing the "gotta graduate or get a GED" game. It seems not to have any effect on their lives, as it never did mine...

 

It wasn't till I was older and had kids in school myself that I really became awear of how calloused the school system was.

My daughter Amy, was born with Cystic Fibrosis and had terrible lung problems and dijestive problems from birth. When she started school they would call me to come and get her everyday bc her coughing was disrupting the class. Well Excuse Amy for trying to breath.

Amy was in n out of the hospital three or four times a year, missing school and falling behind in her grades, altho they did not offer a tutor to help her catch up while she was in the hospital for weeks at a time, sometimes months, they blamed her.

As an example of how cold these people we let teach our kids are; We had a driveway that you could park 10, 18 wheelers in and still have enough room to have a rodeo in., yet the bus driver would not pull up to house to pick Amy up. They said she would have to stand out on the road, wind rain or snow like everyone else, but would fail her if she missed school bc of pheumonia. I took her out of public school and homeschooled her as I could, mostly in the healing ways of nature, cooking, canning, sewing, raising a garden. We laughed a lot and made learning fun.

She told me that the teachers made her feel stupid bc she didn't know the answers to the questions. I did or tried to help her with her lessons, but she was sick and didn't feel like or really didn't have the strenght to do them, with IVs and tubes, breathing machines, tests and all the needles all the time....arrrgggg..(chilling, chilling) well you get the picture.

My oldest son(37) went to 12th grade and they expelled him in his senior yr, for having a doob at the bon fire, he was a straight A honor student, who never needed to study a subject, only having to read it once He went to job core (not recomened) and got hiis GED and took a few collage courses. The other four youngest were homeschooled till their teens and wanted to attend public school bc of their friends, it was their choice, and it was only for a couple of yrs and then all but one quit school altogether.

What they were taught at home was more useful to them in real life then what the system was puttin' out.

sh

 

One of my daughters wanted to go back to public school for her senior year so she could graduate with them, but when we tried to re enroll her they told her that because the "approved" private school she was attending was approved but not "accredited", they were going to have to put her back right where she started, in 10th grade. She looked at them and basically said screw that, I'm quitting.

My youngest two had trouble with reading and comprehension in public school. But they were not "bad" enough to qualify for SPED (special education) and that was the only option. No extra help available. I agitated that if my kids were legally forced to go to school, that the school had a responsibility to me and my kids to give them just a bit of extra help so they would not continue to fall behind. So they sent them to a counselor to see if they had a good home life! I was livid, and if it werent for the fact that it turned out the counselor was a HIPPY who I happened know, I would have jerked them out of school there and then. The straw that broke the camels back was when the someone brought a bag of weed to school and hid it in the boys bathroom. The principal decided to lock down the school and bring in the drug dogs and cops. But before he did that, he called 15 kids out of class and interregated them one at a time behind closed doors with no one else present. My youngest daughter, who had never been in any trouble at school, WAS PATTED DOWN by the MALE PRINCIPAL. She was so scared that she started PUKING. The principal refused to allow her to call home. He then closed all phone lines so NO ONE could call home. My daughter then stumbled across my son in the hallway, he was also called into the office, and they bolted out the back door and down over the hill into the woods. My son was an expert at skipping school and he took her two miles thru the woods to a friends home who ALSO was being harassed. The Principal called me and tried to act all innocent, telling me that my kids had skipped school but not telling me there was a reason. I sent someone to go get them, and when they got home, they filled me in. I got on the phone PRONTO and let some other parents know what was going on with their kids, including the parents of the actual kid who brought the weed to school. (He'd stolen it from them that morning!) Then, the principal called again. Too bad for him. He LIED to me about the whole thing. He claimed there had NEVER been any drugs of any kind EVER found at the school... I told him off, hung up on him, and my kids never darkened his doorstep again...

 

I know what you mean EM, I had my fill of a public employees thinking they run your whole existence. They hold too much power over parents. Now we can't even spank our own kids when they really mess up.

I never had to physically disipline my kids, maybe a little spat on the bottom, but never with an assult weapon, like a belt. I would usually lecture them to the point that they would rather me have beaten them.

The school can beat your child with a wooden paddle, but you can't. Not that I want to beat my kids, just that the system is stepping over the line with their meddling.

There is no disipline anymore, no repercussions for their actions. Kids are killing other kids, teachers and parents bc they have no respect anymore. The schools actually turn the kids against their families and call CPS if you try to control your own kids.

Schools tell kids that their parents are on drugs if they smoke tobacco. School tells kids to turn their parents in if they smoke pot. The schools paint a bad picture for kids about their homelife, and try to program them to be robots doing their bidding..looking, talking and becoming replicas of themselves.

They have changed math intirely, to where a parent has to take a course in arithmatic just to help them with their homework. New Math?!?, what was wrong with just adding two and two to get four. Why is everything so complicated. They pour on the homework and run them around a track till they drop. If they have any talent in sports, they will drive to your house and pick up your child, piss test them and if they pass, they will do whatever they must to make sure the kid passes, like doing their homework for them, so they can play sports and win win win for the school, making them competivly cutthroat.

I suppose the only thing to do about it is take our kids outta public schools and homeschool them.

sh

 

Oh yea, I had a friend with kids in elementary school. They called in the CPS for some reason (had an idea the mom was dealing pot I guess.) They grilled two kindergarteners and a 9 year old. Then they brought in two STATE COPS and grilled the 9 year old until she broke. When the kids got home from school that day there was a bust going on and they were tossed in a car and taken to foster homes. Just like that. Makes you wonder what YOUR kids might say about you in a similar situation... It took her over a year to get them back.

 

glad to hear so many people feel like this. only one person around me felt what i was feeling. I couldn't stand it either. I told myself i was just oing to finish, but it really weighs on you after a while.
I am currently finishing my GED ...the people are great. i havn't worn shoes for a week, and only a few funny looks (you know, there are always those immature a-holes in school...nomatter where you go)

 

im 16 and a junior in high school as well. definatly dont drop out cause then all the time u spent at school was pretty much wasted u know. Just hang in there im sure you'll find a few close friends no worries. and yeah high school sucks i cant wait to get out but just think of your future and hang in there, you'll be fine.

 

"im 16 and a junior in high school as well. definatly dont drop out cause then all the time u spent at school was pretty much wasted u know. Just hang in there im sure you'll find a few close friends no worries. and yeah high school sucks i cant wait to get out but just think of your future and hang in there, you'll be fine."

now THAT is just naive crazy talk. of course it is good to finish highschool...it looks good to future schools/jobs...to them it shows that you can follow through and complete a task. HOWEVER, it is not the be all end all that will make or break your life. your life is spread out in front of you "do what thou wilt". don't be afraid to make mistakes...that's the best way to learn and grow. don't listen to others that say "YOU HAVE TO...blah blah blah" they are trying to steal your energy...they are just helping you create barriers and blockages made of fear. fear is your worst enemy...don't doubt yourself...listen to your inner voice...you know the one that ALWAYS tells you the truth....follow your heart(and then you truly will be fine)!

love and light to guide you always
shanti

 

I vote you should stick it out.

Practically everyone's miserable in high school, aren't they? I know I felt like I was hiding everything from everyone - I wasn't nearly as comfortable with my own quirks as I am now. I played this nice quiet girl role, but I felt like I was faking it to everyone.

You're right, college will be a LOT better.

I don't know, I guess my best advice is to remember that everyone - even the preps, lol - are probably just as messed up and sad and confused as you are. It's just that they're hiding it.

 

I feel kids these days do have it harder than we did in the 60s, early to late 70s in my case. The testing alone in my state is a killer and the stinking thing is causing the drop out rate to skyrocket which is absurd. There is so much violence in the schools here, the kids either join the violent little gangs here or have to watch their back every minute. The teachers in my opinion are apathetic to the students and have their own agendas which is drawing a paycheck. Before anyone jumps on me for that statement, I was a teacher for over 15 years and have seen it all. I quit teaching due to just being disgusted with the whole system which is getting worse. Our system is failing kids not helping them.

The social scene and bullies, yeah that is still in place of course. I don't remember every kid that doesn't fit the mold of the perfect child being put on medication such as adderall and ritalin. We are feeding speed to our kids for God's sake and what is happening, more speed is being invented for the growing population of kids. Something bad is wrong with that picture. Then if kids are broken and can't be fixed, they are shipped off to bootcamp or some Godforsaken alternative school. I don't remember that in the 70s except for extreme and I mean homicidal extreme cases.

I would absolutely hate being a kids these days trying to deal with the violence, testing, medication, and just bs that they have to face in our miserable education system. No wonder our prisons are overflowing, we failed our kids and won't fix the problem, only add to it.

I am fixing to homeschool my 12 year old. He isn't the perfect kid and is of course not flourishing in the schools since he would Godforbid rather draw than read Harry Potter. I won't have him become another casualty of modern society.

To the original poster my advice, if you can hack it definitely stay in school. You will someday regret dropping out say if you want to go to college later. However, if school is making you nuts and depressed, look at other options but by all means get a diploma or GED. Also you have to consider your state's laws. You may have to stay in school if you are young. I do feel for any young person trying to get an education and putting up with the bs in the schools today.

 

No probably about it. And not hiding it very well actually. Altho it took until I got OUT of school to figure that out. The REASON those people are so snobby and hateful acting is because that is how THEY try to hide their feelings of inadaquacy. They surround themselves with others who are as miserable as they are and they think it gives them power.

My realization came at a party, shortly after I quit school. The "preps" were all hanging in one spot and the "outcasts" were hanging in another, but close enough to accidentally hear some of what was being said. Now, I was one of the MOST outcast of all. But here are these girls, whispering and acting all snobby, looking over their sholders at us, when the WORST and most hateful and snobby of all looked at me, looked back at her "friends", and said "I bet she's laughing at us".... SO! they were actually WORRIED that I might be laughing at them! What a revelation! Gee, up until then I never realized that I had any power at all over them!!! Now I find out that they were SCARED of me....

That IS what it's all about. Just another form of insecurity, coming out as "I'm so much better than you".... It's really sad.

 

childhood is shit

life gets better

[if you let it]

 

whatever you do, don't drop - your education is very important. High school is honestly a joke, people are such assholes (excuse the language) and it can be hard to be accepted by them. All i can say is hang for the rest of your time there, do some fun drugs to pass the time, graduate, and go to college. College is so different, almost everybody you will meet at parties in college are so laid back, and won't care about your beliefs, they'll probably judge you more on how much fun you like to have then anything else. Another cool thing about college is that there are so many people that you are bound to find a group of people just like yourself, college is so much more diverse than high school, depending on the school you go to, you probably wont even see people from your high school again. so just hang on and wait for all the good times you'll have at college. just my two cents...

 

Hi, i'm at university now, and for me, too, it was tough to go through high school. However, you just have to remember that 'high school' is just one place of a plenty of places you can go to. Of course, now seems like a really important place but maybe you can try to thing about it as if it was...a kind of job or something. Why don't you try to find new environments, explore your interests...? That's what I did -or tried to, I'm not sure. I don't know how you say this in English but..."don't let the first tree block the view of the forest", meaning something like... there's plenty of things you are gonna live you can't even imagine now so don't get too focused on this one.

 

It weent to hell. Listen, I've got 2 weeks left of high school, I can't stand it! My parents are putting more and more pressure on me and it's hard to concentrate in class when I've got a whole load on my shoulders. Also, I have a job that is really close to my house, but as soon as I graduate, I'm moving out (and I mean the day after my graduation I am out of there) and my parents are trying to tell me that I can't quit my job just because I want to move out. Ha. Talk about problems.

If you want someone you can get along with, talk to yourself! Then you'll know you're always going to be talking to a better class of people

 

Life begins after high school....