Has anybody here seen a brain after x? when i first saw one, compaired to a normal brain. the brain that had done x looked as though it had pepper sprinkled all over it. after closer examination, it was not pepper, but holes burned into the brain. you might think that sounds rediculous, but haven't you ever heard anybody on x say "my brain feels like its burning"? what x does is blow holes in your brain for your saritona to poor out. theres more to it but that about sums it up. after only a couple times of using x, it is impossible for your saritona to build up like it used to without the use of anti-depressants. i just thought i should share what i know. any thoughts on this?
The picture you saw is probably misleading, if it is the one of a monkey on METH and not MDMA (most commonly used brainonxpic). But the sad truth is thats what most heavy users brains will look like because of all the shit put into the pills. I believe there is a video somewhere on these forums of the doctor in charge of the experiment admitting to using meth instead of mdma. MDMA does not put holes in your brain. It burns out your axons, or serotonin recievers, something like that. You can produce normal amounts of serotonin after a couple uses, just depends on the time period between uses. Sometimes the morning after a good roll I will feel a burning sensation in lowerbackofhead/brainstem but I just eat about 3 oranges and it goes away. You sound like you just read a DEA pamphlet full of lies and propaganda, research your shit a little better dude. I'm not saying your completely wrong, it just seems that you have all of your info from one, biased perspective, you need to look at it from all ways. Ecstasy is a neurotoxin aka brain poison, this shouldn't be disputed. But with educated use benefits by far outweigh negative affects.
X, acid, or shrooms do not put holes in your brain. Research how all the chemicals effect your brain and how they actually work. If these drugs put actual REAL holes in your brain you would be rediculously fucked up in the head. To my knowledge X causes an immense rush of serotonin and the next day (or comedown) is sometimes a struggle because of the depletion of the serotonin.
your probably right, but i didn't see a picture, a doctor or brain surgen brought two brains into our classroom to show us what mdma does to your brain. i really haven't done tons of research, but i still have done some, and i've even noticed with a few of my friends now that have taken it several times, they just seem more monotone and less happy, less sad, just more monotone, not completely but its still noticeable. i always here people saying their brain feels like its burning, i think people should still do what they want, i'm not saying ex isn't fun, i just seriously think people need to consider whats more important. i know a lot of people that need to take anti-depressants now. all this isn't from a pamphlet or anything real biased, its just what i've personally seen and put together, and i know other people see this too, but i was just curious and wanted to see how people will defend x.
it simply does not put holes in your brains, it can render you completely emotionless for the rest of your life, which might be worse than holes depends on the person. And you have to understand that if your friends aren't taking molly chances are very high that a good amount of damage done to their brain was done by speed
ok, don't get me wrong, i'm not some anti-drug dude, and i never said acid or shrooms or anything but x does that. but its not even the holes that would scare me, its the emotionless thing that i'd be worried about. i know its cause of ex that my friends are more monotone because they have never done any thing other than ex, acid shrooms and pot, and some coke here and there. i don't want to offend anybody that does ex, especially cause i don't really care, i just wanted to say what i've seen, and see what people have to say about it. but i have a question, if x doesn't widen your seritonin gateways, how do you think it poors out like it does?
the reason is cause i haven't done x, and i would SOOOO fucking love to. its just i wanted to wait and see what it does to people in real life, not just what i hear in school. and from what i've seen, what i've learned in all my drug classes so far has been true. just so you know, i have done EXTENSIVE research on lsd, and there is absolutely no physical effect on your body whatesoever from lsd. even the trip isn't cause directly because of lsd, its from lsd opening up glands in your brain, which open up parts of your brain you have never used. thats what an acid trip is, is using parts of your brain you haven't used before. i could explaine scientifically how it works, but i won't unless you really want me to
ok, nevermind, ex doesn't blow holes in your brain. i'm fuckin pissed. schools are pumping our heads full of shit. its not proven that it doesn't blow holes in your brain, but it isn't proven that it does. but whatever, i'm kinda confused now. i thought i had all this ex stuff down. i've been misguided
Yeah buddy you seem to have pretty much all of your info in this thread wrong. MDMA doesn't burn holes in your brain, it doesn't work by widening your serotonin pathways either, at least not to the level you seem to think it does, they can not open any more than they can open naturally, ecstacy just causes them to stay open for longer than they normally would, then they close up again like they normally would. There are also re-uptake transproters and ecstacy holds them open too so your brain floods with seretonin. It's not a case of not knowing weather or not mdma burns holes in your brain, it's known that it doesn't, there has been plenty of research done on the effects. Like nate says, thats not to say its harmless, it is toxic, it does damage your brain, but the level of damage recieved from a single standard does is so slight as to be undetectable. Even with lab experiments carried out on rats it took excesively high doses or sustained dosages over a long period of time to cause noticable damage. Of course it's like anything, if you take too much at once or you take it too often then it will fuck you up, just like with alcohol, tobbacco, cocaine, water or meth.
The scans you saw are SERT scans and they dont repreasent holes in your brain. See the LSD forum...i responded in detail to one of your posts about it in there.
hahaha Brain damage only occurs to weekly/biweekly users, or in high doses. A first time guy, totally new to the durg who swallows two or three pills has nothing to worry about. Unless it's PMA...then you can say goodnight. Always eat tested pills, kit tested or taste tested...just to make sure you dont croak. Rolling isnt THAT good...lol.
hehe, sorry, i don't know much about ex, just what i learned in school. obviously they were biased. but i didn't say ex opens up glands. lsd does, i'm pretty sure. i think timothy leary is the one who said that in one of his books. i could be wrong though, but i know it doesn't have any physical effects on you, and you don't trip directly from the acid. its all in your head, i'd like to do ex though, i'm just... scared it'll do damage. sorry for sounding like an idiot, just really wanted to see what people had to say about that.
Yeah man, its definitely been proven that it DOESNT blow holes in your brain...in fact they know exactly what it does. Google oxidative stess and MDMA.
X damages your serotonin axons every time you do it. The axons do grow back over time but they are smaller and research has not figured out how this damage effects the mind and it's processing. They do know if you do X frequently and don't give your brain a good break between each usage that it does cause many problems. The worst is when you pop a pill just after you came down from another pill because your brain is already depleted from serotonin so dopamine also floods your axons causing further damage. Doing X could lead to problems with anxiety,depression, and emotional control. All the symtoms get worse the more often you use X. Long term use of X can lead to memory problems and trouble learning. Also everytime you do X you risk having mental health problems when you age 50+.
How long does it take to become emotionless? Im gonna do some E tonight. I havent done it since july. ......I used to do it alot in the summer. It was sort of a summer drug though. Wow I dont even remeber what it's like anymore.. Im excited
