America should just shut up and have faith in their elected leader?

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by RobCat, Sep 12, 2004.

  1. RobCat

    RobCat Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    I do believe it is wrong to only mock the guys intelligence, resemblance, or make any other cheap shots, that is just stupid. But there are plenty of people, including myself, that only mock the specifics, like his policies and his agenda, and potential motives of his inner circle. It is our responsibility in a democracy to question our government. The less say and control the people have, the more they are fooled by propaganda and are inflicted with guilt, and make decisions out of fear and ignorance, the further from a real democracy we get.

    So, are we straying from a democracy, of course. Do we only consider another country a democracy when it's under our terms, yes. Are we starting to resemble and imperialist nation, it's a valid argument.

    So now more than ever we have the responsibilty to question our government. When we accept everything they feed us, we let them manipulate the world with their power.

    I believe we still have a chance to take the country back and to set a better course back towards true democracy.

    POWER TO THE PEOPLE!
     
  2. Juggalo4ever

    Juggalo4ever KingoftheChubbyGirls

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    Bush is an all around idiot and I'm gonna kick him squaw in the nuts
     
  3. We_All_Shine_On

    We_All_Shine_On Senior Member

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    couldn't agree more, but alot of americans like to cop out and hate bush from a distance, and call him names and mock him but when the time comes to say something, they're suddenly mute.
     
  4. Juggalo4ever

    Juggalo4ever KingoftheChubbyGirls

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  5. MaxPower

    MaxPower Kicker Of Asses

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    I second that notion.
     
  6. RobCat

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    I know there are alot of people that say stuff, but don't have anything to back it up with. Those people need to do their research before they express themselves.
     
  7. Juggalo4ever

    Juggalo4ever KingoftheChubbyGirls

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    I know, but i don't care either way. I want nothing to do with any of it and he's not my leader, i wouldn't trust him with a bowl of cereal.
     
  8. Day Dreamer

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    It seems that America is moving towards becoming a plutocracy, rather than a democracy.

    Plutocracy:
    1. Government by the wealthy.
    2. A wealthy class that controls a government.
    3. A government or state in which the wealthy rule.
    Democracy:
    1. Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
    2. A political or social unit that has such a government.
    3. The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
    4. Majority rule.
    5. The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.
     
  9. Juggalo4ever

    Juggalo4ever KingoftheChubbyGirls

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    I don't think many have noticed but thats the way it's been for quite some time
     
  10. FreakyJoeMan

    FreakyJoeMan 100% Batshit Insane

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    [​IMG]So, what we're supposed to do is sit back, relax, and hit cruise control while the Washington fuckers do whatever the hell they want?
     
  11. RobCat

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    We find out specifically what his policies are, and find out what is motivating them, then we raise hell!
     
  12. atropine

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    juggalo.. your contribution to this thread is the most idiotic thing ive ever seen. squaw in the nuts, imagemacro, i know but i dont care.. are you really that mindless? youre a perfect example of what robcat is talking about. and if it was plutocracy there would actually be that class, a group of wealthy people who would rule as a unit, not a sole leader. and george bush isnt exactly in the elite wealthy group. if it was that way bill gates and donald trump would be in power
     
  13. cynical_otter

    cynical_otter Bleh!

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    TROLL FEEDING!!!

    You guys love feeding the trolls dont you?lol

    Stop!!!
     
  14. RobCat

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    It is true that this country isn't a true democracy, but I don't exactly know what it is. Our country is filled with people on two sides, and most of them don't really know anything about politics, they just know their side, and the cast of characters that they can root for. Then sometimes people will vote for someone because of just one reason, not looking at all the others why maybe they shouldn't. Has to do with the divide in this country, a political divide that is turning into a culture divide. Republicans are trying to now be the "christian" party primarily, because of a few issues. That is how they are getting most of their votes, doesn't matter how many people that they are responible for killing overseas, because they are against abortion. Almost as if you can't question their moral integrity. The Democratic party used to be known more as the christian party because of civil rights issues, welfare, etc. Now the corporations are using the christian demographic to their advantage.

    Most people think they have control, while really, we are being controlled through the media and peer pressure. I mean, the only reason we know anything about politics is through other sources. I've never been to Iraq, don't really know if it really exists, but somehow I have an opinion.
     
  15. bandit28

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    You want a harsh reality check?

    All those in favor of a new government?

    All those in favor of war?

    Chances are if you are reading this you said yes to a new government and said no to war. Well then, you won't get your new government. I am all for restructering our government and putting the power back in the peoples hands. I imagine that life was a little better after America won it's freedom. However, because we are human there will always be that one or few people that are wolfs in sheeps clothing. Smiling and taking pictures with babies on the outside, but inside thinking what can I do for me me me. You can protest all you want. Get a 10 mil man march going, none of it will change anything. You want a new government? An overhaul so to speak? You are gonna have to fight for it just like the first Americans did. The other problem you will run into are the people that are comfortable just the way things are. Sure they may complain about property taxes or inflation of prices right when they get a raise, but they are not willing to lay their life on the line so that our children and our childrens children can have a better future. So, lets just say that half of America wont care about a new gov. That means the other half will be fighting against American Solders. Remeber, they have all the technology you don't have. Hrmmm, what does this sound like? Oh yes, The Civil War. Our government will not change because 10 million people carrying a sign want it changed. Question is, are you really willing to lay your life down and your neighbors life, and your childrens life, and your families life, and your.......
     
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    MaxPower Kicker Of Asses

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  17. saffronfrancisburnet

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    i just like to say...... power to the people what with
    a democracy of wars.............
    i think you mean get back on the right track of peace not impose democracy
    on the world where not all is equal how the hell does a system work if the west completely rules other countries and does not understand lets say other religions other culture..... america like the uk is slowly going round this globe of life and taking what it needs ie oil , diamonds minerals for make up that are sold by avon and other companies...
    do the governments who play war over other poeples skies believe its right\
    do we watch in horror as children are blown up and say well democracy works who for who the hell said a white man should rule the usa what about the native americans, who lived in the usa for many years untill the greed of the west killed or destroyed these poeple.
    what about irac then . these poeple should not be forced to be ruled by a white nation even one with the so called god on thier side
    im all for peace but not like this not going around on a crusade killing all
    who believe different than that of bush or blair..who will hold on to anything while workers from the west lose their heads
    i hope that bush and blair sleep well tonight......

    its a shame so many people still believe democracy is the way forward no its backwards its out dated for our time its shallow and only allows those with money or white middle class values to survive...........
    to be free we need a shared world a world work force with many understandings of culture to open our hearts to life....
    be free to learn how we go forward by looking closer to home than you think
    america and the uk will be this worlds down fall they only have to give these countries back after they have half starved the poeple and exploited everything they can dig out of the earth.....maybe we should not have governments, anyway how many young under educated american men join bushs army for what to get paid or to do bushs and blairsdirty underhand work in other countries.
    i personally blame usa and the uk if they dont like something they destroy it...well destroy this america you asked for independance well go live with it and dont forget the uk shipped you their anyway
    maybe its time for the white americans to fly away and leave this world to those who want and need peace soon and as for the uk well look at the mass murder in scotland clans killed irland still fights wales not really heard of so how the hell does blair think he can stop a war about oil when it cant leave its own little parts of land alone....

    maybe if we hadnt infested the world with our ldeas we would have peace today but who knows only history will say now...
    but wars never make peace not when we have graves that remind us like the second world war the first world war but we say its ok now............
    please forgive the forwardness of my reply but democracy will never really
    work half the world starves while the other half throughs food away like macdonalds get fat quick company like the fat cats than run the usa and the uk.....
    its all part of the same thing being blind to yourselves

    thankyou saff
    ps i believe we will murder many more until bush and blair rule the world
    not a nice thought but its happening right under your american noses......
     
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