should i take my meds?

i take 2 25mg of zoloft everyday.. iwasnt on these last time before i took acid.. so im guessing just not to take them in them morning

also a question about vitamin c? ive heard alot of people talking about eating oranges while tripping? why? i dont get it.

thank you! im so excited to trip tomorrow

 

I would take your meds! I haven't looked this up and I doubt there is any research on Zoloft / LSD combining with each other anyway, but if you suddenly skip your meds you can get kindof weird and hormonal and crazy, you know what I mean? And you shouldn't trip when you're feeling weird.

I would definitely take them!

 

really?? hmm. i know, i just dont want there to be some bad combonation.

 

I wouldnt take them.

 

from: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/maois/maois_info4.shtml

which came from:
http://www.thegooddrugsguide.com/lsd/faq.htm

which came from:
http://www.google.com/search?q=lsd+ssri&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a

Good luck! =0)

 

i think psychotherapists or whatever used to use lsd to treat depression, and seriously, if you have an actual trip, the next day you will have a great sense of well-being and a new perspective on the world. i was a little depressed before i first tripped, and it changed my life for the better (it didn't really change my physical life or anything, just my outlook on life, its so beautiful). i am SO much happier now. so i hope it works for you too, as i'm sure it will. it also made me pretty much laugh really hard anytime someone was somewhat hostile to me, like mocking or calling me druggy for smoking pot. people have no clue, its really funny when peoples egos act up

 

if you look up what it was used to treat and cure, you'll find a nice little list somewhere. i know timothy leary used it for pretty much any sort of psychic disorder or imbalance of chemicals in your brain. schizophrenia, depression, autism, and addiction just to name a few

 

first things first, throw away your meds! and dont buy anymore, im serious. isnt it sad how this country is making a pill to "cure" every "problem" a person has? i was just talking about this with a friend while shrooming the other day. now-a-days the government wants to make you believe that by being sad, upset, depressed, lost, etc that there is something wrong with you. let me tell you something, ITS HUMAN NATURE to feel those things. if nobody was ever sad, nobody would ever appreciate being happy. if nobody was ever lost, they would never find a purpose or direction, if nobody was ever depressed, nobody would expeirence that life changing breakthrough or find the answers in life. without the negatives we would never feel the positives, and without the negative, or the positive, we would hit a state of neutralness [ie zombies]. they make so many pills now, the average american cant go a day without popping pills. its so sad. especially with anti depressants. think about it. once you get prescribed to it, does it ever make you "normal" again? no. what happens? you end up buying more and more, and before you know it, you forget what normality is.

now i know some people are more prone to becoming depressed, and are easy to become sad. but i think meditation, or some other wholistic healing process is much more effective than popping pills. in my opinion, i think they are trying to control us with these pills, they are waiting for the day when every single person is hooked onto this pills and are finally unable to think nor function on their own.

so please, if you have any medication that is an anti depressant, or anything of that matter, please for your own sake, throw em away. you have the ability to be happy on your own.

- Tos

 

Kerbe6, you win this thread! Thank you for taking the time to look that up. Really cool of you.

 

i TOTALLY agree with Tos

 

You guys are inflicting your values on Mary Jane, though. I respect your opinions and all, but I think medication is a personal choice. Depression is a real thing - it's an imbalance of chemicals in the brain - so it's something that's gone wrong in your body, just like having bad eyesight. Everybody should get to choose for themselves whether they'd like to take medication to correct it, or try another method, don't you think?

 

O.K. my 2 cents worth..

almost all psych meds,well all i know of take a few days to fully kick(zoloft says 2 weeks to take full effect) in and a few days(they say 2 weeks before its out of your system as well) to get out of your system..
they are designed to slowly build up to a therapeutic level in your system.
in other words it takes a few days for them to adjust to the right chemical balance in your brain.

therefore, not taking your meds for just 1 day is going to have no effect on what the meds will do to the trip. you would have to not take your meds for several days beforehand to not have them affect your trip..

so the conclusion i come to is either keep taking your meds as prescribed,or get off of them all together..

dont play with your psych meds,it defeats the purpose...

 

medication IS a personal choice, but im just stating the facts. have you seen a person on zoloft? no offense to anyone, but i used to hang out with a guy who was prescribed to it, though i cant remember the dosage he used to get. anyways, he always seemed spaced out on em, and if he didnt take his meds he would seem pretty frantic.

and of course depression is a real thing, nobody is disputing that. but its all in the mind. the human mind is powerful enough to control the chemical processes in the brain, but sometimes people dont realize that and they get stuck in a state of depressed moods. and since they are constantly sad, their brain functions alter. all i was saying was that the average american cant go a day without some sort of pill. dont you find that kind of odd? i mean people back in the days were able to function properly without popping pills.

anyways if i came off as preach-y, im sorry, i didnt mean to push my values on anybody. what i meant to say was, becareful. they're more focused on making money than making a cure.

-Tos

 

I'm on Zoloft right now, and i know alot of other people on Zoloft who say that it made a world of positive difference.

And the mind cant control the chemicals in your brain on a whim. Every 7 years or so your brain changes and chemical imbalances are a result of this. It's been scientifcally proven that depression is a real, treatable disorder, that is sometimes out of your ability to control.

 

Yeah...are you sure your friend wasn't just kindof a weird guy Tos?

I don't think it's actually true that the brain can alter its own chemical balance. I'm no doctor, but I'm sure someone would've mentioned that by now.

Back in the day people could function without birth control pills too - they just had more kids or less sex. Just because society didn't fall apart without something, doesn't mean society's not better off now that we have it. I mean...life is way better with playstations, too!

That was a really nice post, though - I was afraid you'd get mad. Thanks for being cool.

 

my girlfriends sister was super depressed and took some sort of meds for it. she told me her sister was always just happy, never sad, never super happy, just one level, so it was really wierd. but, one day she decided she didn't need the meds anymore, and quit,and ever since then shes been perfectly fine. so i know meds can definatley help, but i still think giving acid a try would be worth it. i just thought i'd say that cause i didn't mean that all meds are bad, lsd is one, but all meds are drugs too. i don't know where i'm going with this, sorry

 

depression is caused by little serotonin being produced. anti-depressants can help, but i think lsd is like a jump start, to get the serotonin flowing again. it used to be used to cure depression by therepists in the old days

 

molly boston! you have 420 posts!!! cool!!!

 

Zoloft is the biggest drug-pushing, zombification movement going.
THAT'S the drug's problem, not the drug in itself.
I don't direct that hostility towards anyone using it, but I think there are a ridiculous number of scumbag doctors who are part of the Zoloft machine, so maybe keep your options open on that matter.
Doctors will prescribe the shit for diarhea if you listen to them.
I have seen too many examples of objective #1 being "get patient to take Zoloft" and too many examples of years and years of use resulting in no progress or more Zoloft.
Zoloft and the doctors that push it are usually pieces of shit. It's got it's use, but I would venture to guaranthefucktee the appropriate time falls into about 1% of the cases of being prescribed.

Zoloft is for a short term crisis case or a long-term basket case. When you wake up in the morning repeatedly and the first thing that comes to mind is suicide. Then maybe you should fuck with your serotinin to try and invoke chemical happiness.

I say drop the Zoloft for a week. Then go on with the psychelics and see what THOSE do for you in the long term. If you go into extreme suicide mode, get back on the Zoloft.

My disdain for Zoloft practices aside, psychedlics DO have the potential to treat or cure depression and other psychological matter. I know someone who's turned to Salvia Divinorum a long time ago and hasn't used an anti-depressant since. So give it a shot.
If Zoloft directly alters your seratonin levels, yet it doesn't cure you, maybe what's in order is to indrectly have your brain adjust serotonin levels. Also, try crack.

 

Ive had my share of experiences on ssri and psychopharms, and have found them to be quite zombifying. At first their affect is quite releaving, but after a while you being to feel numb because you are at this baseline level of emotion all day with no extreme joy or sadness. Everyone is different though, and if the meds do seem to help, do what you feel is best.
-As for the part about LSD. Ive attempted to take doses when I was on Lexapro (also an SSRI) and felt veeery little effect off three tabs, while my friend took 2 and was telling me that everything was melting.