Is a Revolution in sight?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Maitreya, Jan 31, 2008.

  1. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

    Messages:
    13,828
    Likes Received:
    14
    LOL. I don't want to lay into Transhumanists or the Quiet revolution tonight - but I would much rather like to know why it is illegal to grow hemp in the USA? Is there some kind of influence not to grow it by synthetic material patents? What gives?
     
  2. memo

    memo Member

    Messages:
    153
    Likes Received:
    1
    Legalizing hemp would be a literal economic atom bomb.
     
  3. Maitreya

    Maitreya Member

    Messages:
    122
    Likes Received:
    0
    The comparison of humans to sheep is sufficient enough, but a deeper understanding of this saying should be understood.

    All of existance moves in patterns, ebb and flow. This is natural and healthy. Everything that goes up must come down, and for every action there is an equal reaction. This is the balance.

    acga5,
    you claim that those who wish for the revolution are part of the "problem". What exactly is the problem?
    And I'm sure know one would disagree that we are all part of a system. But every system evolves, or dies. Our society will transform with or without the public. The problem is that our government, and governments around the world in general, is trying to take away the ability of the people to assist in this change. If we do not have the right to control what the government can do, we are relieved of all power. Power corrupts, and any entity that is allowed absolute power will abuse it. This is human nature.
    "kick back and have a beer, or die tired"...
    This is a statement of person who once had dreams of a better world but lost their hopes in the misery created by the same system they gave into. We all die tired friend, it's what we affected in this life that gives value to that exhaustion.

    Either way, for action a reaction. The longer the goverment denies the people their rights, the more violent the reaction will be. Why wait?

    Maitreya
     
  4. Donski

    Donski Member

    Messages:
    190
    Likes Received:
    0
    Our government has already figuratively said "let 'em eat cake", I think it's time we chopped their heads off.
     
  5. Catfish

    Catfish Member

    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    1
    'It has a short growing season...It can be grown in any state...The long roots penetrate and break the soil to leave it in perfect condition for the next year's crop. The dense shock of leaves, 8 to 12 feet above the ground, chokes out weeds....hemp, this new crop can add immeasurably to American agriculture and industry.'

    In the 1930s, innovations in farm machinery would have caused an industrial revolution when applied to hemp. This single resource could have created millions of new jobs generating thousands of quality products. Hemp, if not made illegal, would have brought America out of the Great Depression.

    William Randolph Hearst (Citizen Kane) and the Hearst Paper Manufacturing Division of Kimberly Clark owned vast acreage of timberlands. The Hearst Company supplied most paper products. Patty Hearst's grandfather, a destroyer of nature for his own personal profit, stood to lose billions because of hemp.

    In 1937, Dupont patented the processes to make plastics from oil and coal. Dupont's Annual Report urged stockholders to invest in its new petrochemical division. Synthetics such as plastics, cellophane, celluloid, methanol, nylon, rayon, Dacron, etc., could now be made from oil. Natural hemp industrialization would have ruined over 80% of Dupont's business.

    Andrew Mellon became Hoover's Secretary of the Treasury and Dupont's primary investor. He appointed his future nephew-in-law, Harry J. Anslinger, to head the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs.

    Secret meetings were held by these financial tycoons. Hemp was declared dangerous and a threat to their billion dollar enterprises. For their dynasties to remain intact, hemp had to go. These men took an obscure Mexican slang word: 'marihuana' and pushed it into the consciousness of America.


    [size=-1][/size]
     
  6. Maitreya

    Maitreya Member

    Messages:
    122
    Likes Received:
    0
    Would it be possible to have a peaceful revolution, or would the government eradicate any such attempt? The hippie movement can considered a social revolution that was peaceful in comparison with other revolutions. And many things changed because of that movement, but they did not succeed in what they were trying to accomplish. The revolution basically turned out to be a small reformation that was absorbed into the society they were trying to transform.
     
  7. earthmother

    earthmother senior weirdo

    Messages:
    1,837
    Likes Received:
    2
    Google Ron Paul's March on Washington...
     
  8. Pepik

    Pepik Banned

    Messages:
    844
    Likes Received:
    0
    Please tell us how the feminist "revolution" was actually a communist conspiracy. Be sure to provide links to savethemales.ca, or something equally insane.
     
  9. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

    Messages:
    33,922
    Likes Received:
    2,461
    Did I say it was a "communist" conspiracy, or is it just another failed attempt by you to put words in my mouth?

    As I already said, Gloria Steinem was recruited by Cord Meyer as a CIA operative in 1958. She admittedly was used to spy on Marxist groups over in Europe in the late 50s/early 60s. Upon her return to the US, her Ms. Magazine was bankrolled by the CIA. Again, this has been admitted by Steinem herself in her autobiography, long after she was outed in the mid-70s as a CIA operative.
     
  10. polecat

    polecat Weerd

    Messages:
    2,101
    Likes Received:
    3
    I'm already bringing around 10 people. More if the planners are intelligent enough to do it on the weekend. They really want to do Tax Day, which is fitting, but not worth the cost of thousands of marchers not showing up.

    But yeah, I'll have signs and the lot. Hopefully it will go well.:)
     
  11. Pepik

    Pepik Banned

    Messages:
    844
    Likes Received:
    0
    No Rat you're supposed to show how thhe feminist movement was a conspiracy. Why would the globalists want to create feminism?

    Also, Steinham got CIA money for some organisations she was working with abroad. Stories about her working for the CIA in the US, being a CIA agent, or the CIA being behind Ms Magazine are not substantiated, and she never admitted them in her biography, a complete lie. But if we get sidetracked by your lies we'll never get anywhere.

    Lets get to the point. Everything you say sounds like it is coming from here. Is that right? Do you agree with Makow?
     
  12. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

    Messages:
    33,922
    Likes Received:
    2,461
    It was admitted by The New York Times in 1967 that she worked for the CIA. You are wrong yet again.

    http://www.namebase.org/steinem.html
     
  13. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

    Messages:
    33,922
    Likes Received:
    2,461
    And no, they don't come right out and say it in the article. But she was heading a group that was receiving large sums of money from the CIA. Therefore, she was in collusion with the CIA.
     
  14. Chemistry21

    Chemistry21 Member

    Messages:
    13
    Likes Received:
    0
    Good post, another fan of King Crimson that is intelligent...doesn't surprise me. I do think a revolution by the people could happen though, but only once people are informed.....which is quite a battle in itself.
     
  15. Bradley1107

    Bradley1107 Banned

    Messages:
    314
    Likes Received:
    0
    Rat I always see you posting the same damn thing. every thread. Apparently you're the only one in the world who REALLY knows whats going on...but for some fucking reason, you wont share this elaborate conspiracy with us.
     
  16. Number6

    Number6 Member

    Messages:
    418
    Likes Received:
    6
    No, revolution is not coming. In order for a revolution to occur a large minority of people have of be made significantly uncomfortable. The last time this happened was during the Vietnam era when young men were being drafted and sent off to a war no sane person thought was a good idea. As soon as the draft was ended, the antiwar movement pretty much evaporated. Today, it would be very difficult to start a revolution in the USA simply because most everyone is comfortable and has no reason to do so.

    A violent revolutionary group would find it very difficult to get sympathy and support from the general population. At first they might find a bit of support, just as the Weather Underground did in their early years. But as soon as the first cop dies or store fronts of innocent merchants get broken, that support and sympathy dries up fast. Anyone taking up arms against our government must answer the question, "Who do you plan to shoot or what do you plan to blowup ?" and "If you kill my wife or blowup my business, why would I support you ?".

    A peaceful revolution such as the current antiwar movement, is much more palatable to the general population, but grow very slowly simply because the mainstream media does not cover them in any meaningful way, even a 300,000 person march in Washington gets a 30 second spot on CNN while Anne Nichole Smith get hours and hours of breathless coverage.
     
  17. guy

    guy Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,137
    Likes Received:
    0
    and what was the great victory of the "feminist revolution"?


    instead of being at home watching over the home and neighbourhood and children, women have simply been sent to the coal face in the name of freedom. so now they juggle responsibilities. the men competing with the spare labour force lost their wages and the women just gained another burden.

    there is no doubt that education and equal rights for women is necessary for a harmonious socety but why bother make them live an existence with both work and home life responsibilites?

    if i was offered a life to stay away from work and persue my hobbies i would take it. anyone telling me about the purity and freedom of hard labour would be laughed at.
     
  18. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

    Messages:
    10,027
    Likes Received:
    2
    I can't stop laughing. Women never turned against men, they stood up for their own rights and respect. If some patriarchal feelings got hurt, perhaps it was time that their self centered myopic views were expanded. The feminist movement didn't take women out of the home, the economy and Reganomics did that. Why should any class of people be rated by society as less important than another.

    Would you do away with public schooling, who then would educate the children? Maybe all the Dad's should stay home?
     
  19. stev90

    stev90 Banned

    Messages:
    951
    Likes Received:
    0
    Why is it that as soon as one cop dies, everyone seems to show so much shock, outpouring of support and all that bullshit.

    People die due to work related reasons. A cop dying in the line of duty is no different from a iron mill worker getting crushed by machines, etc.

    Besides, let's be honest, there ARE a lot of crooked cops too...
     
  20. Maitreya

    Maitreya Member

    Messages:
    122
    Likes Received:
    0
    A revolution is easier to reach than one might think. The fact that people are already talking about revolution is indicative of its place in the future. The seeds are being planted now and they will only grow. It's true that it takes a significant amount of people to rise up. And it's also true that most adults are content in their position. But the youth are not, and they are the future. They are already questioning the system, and they are doing to so at younger ages. When these young people are grown and the system continues to decline a reaction will occur. It's inevitable.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice