Homestead in the Bush

I am transferring to the university of alaska fairbanks for the fall 2008 semester and hopefully will be staying there once i get a degree. Living in alaska has been a goal/dream for the past 3 and a half years and I am pretty excited about it. Freeinalaska, do you know if there are any online listings for those cabins? I'd be more interested in looking at those instead of apartments.

 

Check out the Fairbanks newpaper online, http://classifieds.newsminer.com/?class=10006 Scroll down to the cabin section. Anything in Goldstream, Sheep Creek or Chena Ridge is reasonable to get to UAF. Shoot me a PM when it gets closer to fall. I have one rental cabin now and should have the second finished by then.

 

excuse my ignorance,but what do they mean by "dry cabin"?

also am i to assume that most of the cabins are just 1 large room,as they just have dimensions...

do they generally have indoor plumbing unless otherwise specified or is outhouses and haulin water a given?

 

ok i assume a "dry cabin" means no water and ,which would mean no indoor plumbing,which would mean a outhouse? yee haw, nothin like takin a shit when its 40 below..

i know, thats what 5 gallon buckets are for...

 

They are on a jbsite

 

Yes, a dry cabin has no water and no flush toilet. And my morning visit to the outhouse at my luxury homestead this morning was definately a "yee haw" experience with it being -45 at 6 AM.

HHB, most cabins are usually one room unless a bedroom or loft is mentioned. Rental cabins are a great investment. I built the one I have now for about $4K including the $1700 worth of Toyo and fuel tank. I get $450/mo and there is nothing to break or freeze with the exception of the Toyo.

 

wow thats crazy man.. so lemme ask you,, whats a job,, like,, oh lets say whats a dishwasher make there?

 

A dishwasher makes around $9/hr, but our local roadhouse & bar, Ivory Jacks, pays no less than $12/hr. I guess he figures most of his employees spend their paycheck drinking there so he get a lot of it back anyway.

 

Wow.. what does a place with a hot water heater and a toliet that is hooked to a sepitic system cost?

 

Over $1k/mo, usually $1200 to $1700 for a real house with a bedroom or three. Sometimes a cabin pops up with flushy and water for $800.

 

That's kinda expensive for a "far-away" destination, but I guess it's the price to taste the Alaska's scenary... still too much expensive for me.

 

this seems very interesting. living in those conditions would be very...... different

 

Yeah, that is expensive I have lived in quite a few places with no water and an outhouse but I wouldn’t work 40 hours a week to live like that. If I have to work 40 hours a week I want a hot shower and a septic system. I could live in a shed for free.

There are a few towns here in Colorado that are really expensive like that mostly resort towns in the mountains like Vail, Aspen, and Breckinridge. Rent is so much people spend like 60 to 80 hours of pay just to pay 1 months rent in a little apartment. There is no middle class only rich and servants.
If I can’t rent a decent place with 40 hours of pay I won’t live in a place. I have camped in National forest in the summer and worked at a couple of those towns and saved money for a mounth or 2 and left it was OK for that.

 

Yes, rents are high, but here in the interior you can buy reasonably priced land close to town, or down right cheap land furthur out off grid. Also wages are higher especially if you are a journeyman trades person. It really balances out. In many cases people are much better off when wage and living costs are compared to other areas of the country.

Are those rent prices really that high compared to other places? Especially those with plenty of good paying jobs around?

 

In Colorado an average small apartment is about $450 to $600 a month a home is about $1000.00 to $1250.00. A job at a department store or an average labor job pays about $10.00 to $16.00 per hour.
A hippy shack or a small cabin with a wood stove and an outhouse in the hills is usually free if you know someone with property and do a little up keep work.

 

I need to meet some people from Colorado.......

 

I should put a disclaimer that those prices are for towns like Denver, Fort Collins, Colorado Springs and places like that.
Places like Boulder and Nederland and hippy towns are expensive and a lot of people end up moving because they cant afford it.
It is hard to find cabins or land to live on but it can be done. Over the past 15 years or so a lot of mountain property has been bought up by rich people building custom homes, but there are still a few pockets of hippies holding out.
I think around here basically it is custom to put some labor in a place and keep it up nice half the time moving in means cleaning up after the person before you (hippies are not always as clean as they claim to be) sometimes people will want 50 –100$ but how much can a person charge to live in a shack with no plumbing?
This is getting off topic I just wanted to put a disclaimer so people didn’t get the impression that Colorado was some dreamland utopia for hippies. It is a nice place worth checking out but don’t get your dreams up to much.

 

The usual rental formula in a capitalist society is to rent out a place that will pay the payments on a 40-year mortgage.
The rent you are chargeing is the payments that will pay off a one-year mortgage.
That is 40X times higher then the national average.!!!
Congratulations you are an extremely successful real estate capitalist.

Never amazes me how much hippes talk negative about capitalism and as soon as they get the chance they are 40 times worse then the average mainstream person.
At least your not making them work 40 hours a week on your farm for meals of rice and beans with no pay and getting tax cuts because you claim they are a “volunteer”.

 

Interesting take on me making money off of a rental cabin. Why is it when a hippie makes money off something they are touted to be 40 times worse than the average mainstream person?

Please note that the cabin that cost me $4K in cash cost me many, many, many hours collecting and recycling materials and building. The land has already been paid for so that was not included in that figure.

I just don't understand how I am a bad evil capitalist by providing a beautiful hand built cabin in the woods, with garden space and groovy vibes for a reasonable price to a like minded couple. Even hippies need to make a living and providing a nice place to live for other hippies seems like good karma all the way around.

I think what is objectional in mainstream capitalism is entities making money without thought or concern for their fellow man or the environment.

 

as gobot types his attack on his computer that when he purchased it the profits went straight into a corporations hand,as he pays his power bill straight to a corporation, a internet connection paid straight to a corporation.. yea ya see all thats justified cause he then can attack someone trying to make a few extra bucks for his family..

I FUCKING HATE HYPOCRITES!!


if your gonna rave against capitalism on the smallest of scales quit supporting it on the largest of scales!!!!!