- Intuitive Inner Perception By Neon Dots -

I remember when I first started using psychedelics at age 14, which was
8 years ago. Everyone around me who would eat some would always
know that the LSD they had was good, and not fake, when the body
load and distorted perception would start to take hold. But I alwas knew
within 5 minutes, though I didnt always voice my opinion at first because
I was not so sure of what was happening to me. But the way I could tell
was that after eating some and just after finishing a smoke, I would
start to see neon spots in front of me, right at the point where to two
visual path ways of the eyes meet. Every time without fail, I would
see this near 20-40 minutes before any other noticeable effects took
place (unless of course it was a large dose, in which case I would start
tripping in less than 30 minutes).
Now lot's of people who have tried acid, or other psychedelics, love to
describe the hallucinations, or altered visuals they have, but only one
person in my lifetime who I spoke with claimed to be seeing these dots
at the onset of a trip. Most people say the typical breathing and coming
to live effect of the enviorment, and talk about the closed eye visuals
as being intense. So I asked myself, Why do I see fractal patterns and
atomic activity and live Energy, with eyes wide open?
Because it is the 3rd eye. What is being seen is the Light of Creation
opening itself to you.
Yogananda warns the yogi not to become mezmorized in the fairy
activity on the energy plane which manifests itself into pretty colors,
patterns, and all sorts of nonsensical hallucinations. But to focus your
perception on God, which is just on the other side of this 3rd Eye light.
I've gotten lost many times in the magic of the inner workings of divine
perception. I only wish that I knew then what I know now.
Wakeing up in the Mind of God is just out of reach for us who have
seen this but were profoundly confused.
It's right there all the time, we just have to know how to look. Beyond
the heart song of Mother Earth, within lower than Sound and deeper
than internal space.
Om Shanti Family.
Namaste

 

haha ye, thats what he said. no but seriously, it will all become clear after time - u just gotta give it time. give anything a bit of time and it will give you all the time in the world.

 

I agree Placid, time is what is perceived as going by when growth
occurs.
But sometimes, we also need to be taught, and we cant always
teach ourselves, especially if were caught up in staring at bright
lights when we could be the cause of the lights brightness.

 

and i now understand what you mean.

..just thought id sneak that in there.

 

nice

 

i'll get there.

each day i feel more and more progressively that this is not the world for me.

 

Yo I know I see those things dots as well. Even when I'm not trippin sometimes I'll see these clearish lookin small dots float around. I still even see closed eye visuals intensly, even when I am not trippin, like I'll stare at a light close me eyes and see three different outlines of it. I think I've tripped to much.

 

The clear dots, I dont think, are related to third eye vision. The clear dots are either perception of particles or damage to the eye, Im not exactly sure. But the neon colors are something else, at least for me, there are only two and they become one very quickly. I've seen it on drugs that arent psychedelic as well, and at different times while sober. LSD can bring this vision on, well obviously, but I dont feel that it's the same as having lingering effects from drugs. Saints and yogis have been talking about them for thousands of years, and many of them have never even tried psychedelic drugs, but claim that the perception only comes by way of deep meditation, something not many people ever get to.
namaste

 

Before any visuals, I see a haze of pink/purple layered over everything. I'm also rediculously stoned and relaxed (on just the acid alone) within 10 minutes. I have HORRIBLE HPPD anyway so it's hard to tell...however when my HPPD 'kicks up a couple nothces' that's when i REALLY notice. But i can tell if it's legit generally within 10-20 minutes.

Sometimes however i havent felt anything short of the 60 minute mark. Could have been a potent RC...DOC or something, but w.e. the trip always felt the same. Some batches seem to come on strong and quick, others build slow and steady.

Ive also never gotten fake acid in my life...ive gotten weak shit, never fake though.

 

Yea, the haze.....I know your not into God exactly Myke but the colors you are talking about are not the emanation of energy, they are the lower dimensions of the first level of Heaven, the inital seperation of the soul from the bodily host in the beginning stage of death according to my own experience with psychedelic death and to several scriptures, collectivley detailed in Ancient Wisdom by Annie Bensant.
I've never had to wait so long as 60 minutes to feel any psychedelic, the longest probably 45 and that was my first acid trip at 15, had no idea what to expect and was vacuuming my mom's carpet when I started thinking "Something isn't right here...."

 

hahahaha^ yeah thats funny that you mention that.

I tripped twice on some decent blotter my first couple times, there wasnt much of a head fuck like im used to now. It was very visual, stimulating and euphoric but i didnt get any crazy themes or anything. Then like my third time tripping it was craaazzyy potent and the first thing that happened a half hour after ingestion was the head fuck...it was just like all of a sudden reality made NO sense and i thought that same thing..."What the fuck is going on right now" type shit.

 

Relayer - I find your comments to the other posters on this thread to be somewhat arrogant (in a subtle, underlying way). You seem to discount the others experiences as being not quite as valid or important in comparison as to what you perceive to see, when in fact everything written here is all just "pure speculation". Nobody knows what the heck any of it means. From your postings I can tell that you are a very loving and warm hearted person, but it seems as though you are posturing yourself as an internet guru here. But then again, I suppose there's nothing wrong with that as long as you are happy and not hurting anyone. Much better than being a thoughtless, hate monger.

 

Jelly, I realize that you dont exactly enjoy our conversations here but your own speculation at negative undertones hidden by kindness is your own opinion and is in no way my intention. I told one poster here that I personally dont feel that something mystics and yogi's have been describing for thousands of years is the same thing as a pshcological disorder, which is in no way proveable, attributed to LSD use as it's lingering aftermath, and this in some way makes me a false guru, or is implying that "I've seen it all and you idiots are blind?"
Take from my statements what you will, Im not here to tell you what to think, Im sharing my opinion but Im not here to brainwash or put anyone else down. There is plenty I may have to say towards you for your recent posts on the 'bullshit' that is thrown around here so loosely, perhaps I am wasting my life but who are you to judge me? Peace jelly, this forum is about free speech but also demands a certain amoung of regards to respecting other members, keep that in mind.
namaste.

 

Relayer i really enjoy your posts, if you think one thing is speculation jelly , surely all we have is speculation? i agree with this view but feel posts by relayer are concise, focused and provide illumination for those in differing situations, as through experience surely this speculation becomes backed up somewhat?

peacex

 

Thank you for your kyndness, Kizen.
I want to be very clear to everyone here who reads this that I am not trying to push myself on other people as some kind of guru, and any advice that I offer in public and in private messages is only based on my own experience. I dont make post's taking shots in the dark at that which I have no personal knowledge of. I dont have any books to sell, I dont think that I am smarter than the next person, I dont teach yoga and I dont go to temple. Im just trying to share my love for God, if you dont dig it then why not just move on? Im not going to insult anyone and I dont wish to argue about something that is based on personal experience. If you dont believe in God it's because you havent met Her, and if I believe in God it's because I haven't seen what you've seen to show me otherwise.
namaste

 

thanks for your comments RELAYER. Wishing you nothing but love, kindness, and compassion on your chosen path.
Namaste

 

Spoken like a true friend. Our differences pale in comparison to our true simliarties as human beings. No matter what you believe, I care about you just as much as any person and I would never wish any negativity come your way.
Good health and much bliss Jelly,
namaste

 

Relayer is one of the wisest people i know. I mean i dont know him personally, but through his posts it really shows that this guy asked deep and meaningful questions, and he searched within himself to find those answers. searching within ourselves isn't something many of us do. He does do that, thats why any information he gives about God really means alot to me, because i know he went all out to find what hes looking for.

 

hahaha

do i sense a bit of sarcasm?

 

hehe